Iran and Israel’s Future


Dr. Yuval Steinitz 3

Ari Bussel was part of a News Briefing and a Q&A with Israel’s Intelligence Minister Dr. Yuval Steinitz. The subject was Israel and a potential nuke-armed Iran.

 

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Iran and Israel’s Future

Iran’s Upper Hand – A Press Briefing with Minister Dr. Yuval Steinitz

 

By Ari Bussel

Sent: 2/12/2015 9:23 PM

 

Israel’s Intelligence Minister Dr. Yuval Steinitz is likely one of the closest people to Prime Minister Netanyahu.  It was thus crucial, I decided, to venture to hear him at a press briefing about “the P5+1’s negotiations with Iran and what the consequences mean for Israel.”

 

We sat for an hour and a half, which included briefing and a lengthy Q&A.

 

In retrospect, I know I will feel most privileged, having spent so much time with an integral member of Israel’s top “inner circle.”  But at the moment, I feel astounded at what I heard.

 

Dr. Steinitz does not have charm that attracts one to him.  But one must not be fooled by the look of a simple Israeli.  It is exactly for that reason that I do not understand the song and dance routine playing before us.

 

I asked Dr. Steinitz two questions, and one could hear the ticking of everyone of the two dozen or so top reporters present on their keyboards or ipads.  First was a theoretical question of deep reasoning:  What puts Israel in a position to dictate to Iran what Israel wishes?

 

My second question was a practical one:  Given that the Iranian regime is steadfastly resolute in its insistence to become a nuclear power, the US President is determined to have a deal signed (likely defining his legacy and the fate of the world) and Israel’s Prime Minister is determined to speak to a joint session of Congress on March 24th, there will likely ultimately be what Dr. Steinitz calls “a bad agreement.” 

 

All roads lead to this inevitable eventuality.

 

What does the Israeli government do on the 25th of March?

 

We all remember the saying “those who know do not talk, and those who talk do not know.”  Dr. Steinitz “knows,” so what is the purpose of him “talking?”  That I still do not understand.

 

Dr. Steinitz insists, “One Iran is Bad Enough.”  It is a “terrible, brutal, fanatic, dangerous regime” although, he says, its tone has changed.

 

“Little Israel” he says is, according to Iran, the “Little Satan.”  Israel is covered by several hundred Iranian missiles, so to Israel, the Iranian threat to “wipe it off the map” is real.  Moreover, Iran is already at two of its borders – via its proxies Hamas and Hezbollah in Gaza and Lebanon, respectively – and is now building a third front in the Golan Heights.

 

But America should be worried as well.  As a reminder that the US is the Great Satan, just yesterday there were demonstrations and flag Iranian Celebrations Islamic Revolutionburnings in Teheran (pix shown).  The hatred toward the West has not subsided or lessened – the substance remains unchanged – although the rhetoric has softened under the Iranian “charm offensive” of the past 18 months.

 

The Iranian satellite launch test just a few weeks ago was really a test of its intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), aimed at the eastern heart of the USA.  Thus, warns Dr. Steinitz, “Iran is a threat to America and Europe, and they should be seriously concerned.”

 

Dr. Steinitz recaps the two options open to the world. 

 

One:  Getting rid of the problem by dismantling the capacity for any nuclear aspiration, so that the world can verify there is nothing to verify (i.e. there will not be any nuclear program).

 

Two:  Living with the status quo and trying to contain it, by putting shackles on Iran, restrictions of one sort or another in time and place, none of which will work in the long run.

 

Israel advocates the first, while the world has now turned to the later.

 

The two choices follow two models – the Libyan circa 2003 (once dismantled, a nuclear program was not developed) and the North Korean circa 2007 (“freezing, stopping, restraining, inspecting”) leading in 2011 to the first successful test by North Korea.

 

To make the point stronger, Dr. Steinitz emphasizes, reminding all he is speaking for Israel:  “Our national security is under threat.  We want to prevent a bad deal, not only raise reservations after a bad deal is signed.  We will defend ourselves by ourselves.  It is all about our future.”

 

He further clarifies, lest anyone is mista8 Eessential Elements Iran Nuke Negotiansken:  Iran is part of the problem, not part of the solution.  Iraq, Yemen, Syria – are all part of Iran’s axis of advancement to the Middle East and beyond.  Iran aspires increasing influence, determined to establish homogeneity (Islamic rule) and to become a threshold nuclear state with the capability to produce the first nuclear bomb, then many more at once.

 

Whereas until a year and a half ago, there were six UN Security Council resolutions dictating dismantling Iran’s nuclear capabilities or aspirations thereof, the P5+1 changed their minds, making Iran a legitimate part of the negotiations and legalizing in effect its nuclear basis.

 

A bad agreement on March 24th will be irreversible, warns Steinitz, and the world will have to live with its consequences for decades.  It is better to have no deal than a bad one, reminds Dr. Steinitz of an approach the US President once took but have since abandoned.

 

It is a very gloomy picture indeed for March 24th, since there is no significant progress on any of the eight elements of negotiation that are of crucial importance.  How can the status quo change in the short time of a few weeks between now and March 24th?  It will undoubtedly and inevitably lead to an agreement full of loopholes; what Dr. Steinitz calls “a bad agreement.”

 

Thus, while Dr. Steinitz delineates the various points of contention, on which Iran has not the slightest intention to compromise or capitulate (I know I would not), it becomes obvious that this press briefing was called for some other purpose altogether. 

 

Possibly the real intention in this briefing is to support the “vital importance” (in some people’s eyes) of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress?  But even that supposition fails, as Dr. Steinitz knows – and states – that Israel needs to do what she needs to do on her own.  The USA is not Israel’s pawn nor is it her go-doer.  Thus, talking to those who do not want to listen – i.e. the President – and doing so publicly will achieve no aim. 

 

So we are back to my initial question:  Given that (1) Iran does not recognize Israel’s right to dictate its actions (and why should they, it is an insult to their very being and sovereignty), (2) the US President is intent on signing a deal (good, bad or mediocre, he cares not, as long as there is a signed deal on the table, the details of which we can all learn later, to quote Nancy Pelosi’s famous teachings about ObamaCare) and (3) Netanyahu is still trying to convince everyone (including himself) of the vital importance of yet another appearance before a joint session of Congress (the fourth), what will Israel do on the 25th of March 2015?

 

It is clear Dr. Steinitz did not intend to answer this question.  He spent an hour and a half telling the members of the foreign press who chose to spend the morning in Jerusalem about centrifuges (9,500 operational/active ones and another ten thousand connected but not operational yet) that can be replaced by more advanced ones that are six and eight times faster.  He explained the difference between being a threshold nuclear state that can produce a single bomb within a year and the ability to produce many bombs, say 100, within a few months.

 

We became semi-experts in technology, all in the scope of one lecture, but the race is one of shaping the opinion of the top global decision makers.

It seems at the moment Iran has the upper hand.  It is becoming accepted as part of the solution, especially when IS keeps beheading and setting captives on fire.  Iran suddenly is the “moderate” and “partner” of the West, and Dr. Steinitz tried to remind us again and again, albeit unsuccessfully, Iran is the problem, not the solution. Did Mussolini’s presence make Hitler any less dangerous a threat to mankind?

It will all remain for Israel to act on her own, for her own survivability and for the long-term benefit and wellbeing of the world as a whole.  Thus, public talks and briefings such as the one today are meaningless if they are the only action being taken.  It is not a remedy by any standard.  However, if the talk is for the outside, while Israel devises smart ways of penetrating and debilitating the Iranian race to nuclear capabilities, it was time well spent.

 

I left the briefing room knowing that Dr. Steinitz did not succeed in persuading any of the readers, viewers or listeners in Israel or abroad.  Why?  Because I remained unconvinced myself. 

 

If I were Iran, I would react on the spot, asking teasingly “whom do you think you are, dear Minister, to tell us what we can or cannot do?”

 

Alas, the Iranians are experts at manipulating public opinion, so I will not even start to list all the things they can say.  They do so very craftily themselves.

 

I left more worried than I arrived.  For I remembered the presenter is one of the closest, most crucial members of Israel’s inner circle.  And that was frightening.

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This is the latest in the series “Postcards from America – Postcards from Israel,” a collaboration between Zager and Bussel, a foreign correspondent reporting from Israel.

 

Ari Bussel and Norma Zager collaborate both in writing and on the air in a point-counter-point discussion of all things Israel-related.  Together, they have dedicated the past decade to promoting Israel.

© Israel Monitor, February, 2015

 

First Published February 12, 2015

Contact:  bussel@me.com

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Hamas Rocket Threat

I found an inspiring post on the Facebook group Stop Islamization of America (SIOA). The post was a contribution by a gal going by the name of Judy Shapiro. Ms. Shapiro provides some heart felt thoughts followed by an article attributed to David Lev. The theme of the post is Israelis should become weary of the terrorism flowing Hamas entrenchment in Gaza. Recently this fiefdom of Islamic terrorists was the origin of yet another missile attack on Israel. Ms. Shapiro’s tagline is “MY DEAR FRIENDS,” but her title could have been just as easily “Retake Gaza and Clean out Islamic Terrorists”.

 

Thank you Judy!

 

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My Dear Friends

 

Posted by Judy S. Shapiro

Posted on March 14, 2014 3:47 pm

Stop Islamization of America (Facebook)

 

This past week and currently deadly rockets are being launched against ISRAEL innocents non-stop from the hamas state of Gaza.

 

Shortly before his stroke, rendering him comatose for years until his death, former PM Sharon forced the expulsion of at least 10,000 JEWs by other JEWs from Gaza.

 

That act remains one of ISRAEL’s and the JEW’s most horrendous in contemporary history.

 

Since then hamas Gaza has become a leading terror state with ongoing supplies of ‘Weapons Of JEWISH Destruction’ from the NUCLEAR Iran and Syria.

 

In fact the Iranians publicly boast that Gaza is their proxy state.

 

The expulsion and forceful eviction of JEWs was wrong and is causal for more murder and terror for JEWISH innocents, including women and children. Hamas are muslim barbarians who vow ‘until the death’ the annihilation of ISRAEL and the death of ‘every single JEW.’

 

The US is obsessed with the tragedy of the missing Malaysian plane.

 

It is time for ISRAEL to retake the Gaza.

 

There can be ZERO peace as long as hamas controls Gaza.

 

QUESTION

 

Isn’t it more than odd that both SON-OF-ISLAM obama and his kerry continue to condemn and pressure ISRAEL while ignoring (as usual) the muslim murder, violence and terror of JEWs?

 

ANSWER

 

You know the answer:

 

It is ANTI SEMITISM

 

I TOLD YOU!!

 

AM YISROEL CHAI

 

NO MORE CARVING ISRAEL UP OR PRISONER RELEASES.

 

SILENCE=COMPLICITY

 

STAY INFORMED

 

STAY VIGILANT

 

THE TINY YET POWERFUL ISRAEL MUST ALWAYS PREVAIL

 

JERUSALEM IS THE UNDIVIDED ETERNAL CAPITAL OF ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE

 

KING SOLOMON

 

‘IF YOU SAVE ONE, IT IS LIKE SAVING THE WORLD’

 

Their state=TransJordan

 

NO MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO

 

WHAT ABOUT BENGHAZIGATE?

 

WHAT ABOUT DANIEL PEARL’s muslim MURDERERS?

 

FREE JONATHAN POLLARD

 

GOOD SHABBOS

 

JUDY

 

NEVER AGAIN

 

NEVER FORGET

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Growing Calls for Israel to Retake Gaza
There’s only one way to permanently end Gaza rocket attacks on Israel, say two ministers – going back into Gaza, at least temporarily.

By David Lev
First Publish: 3/13/2014, 2:13 PM

 

Hamas terrorists parade rockets

In the wake of the latest round of rocket attacks from Gaza, at least two top government ministers – Intelligence and Strategy Minister Yuval Steinitz and Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman – are calling on Israel to retake Gaza. In a stinging recrimination to former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s disengagement plan, which included the forced expulsion of some 10,000 Israelis when their homes were demolished and the land they were build (sic) on handed over to the Palestinian Authority, Steinitz said in an interview with Channel 10 that Israeli control was the only way to restore peace and quiet in southern Israel.

 

“Sooner or later we will have to take control of Gaza, in order to get rid of the Hamas regime,” Steinitz said. “We do not need to reoccupy it permanently, but we do need to remove from Gaza the option of firing rockets on us. If and when the moment comes when we must retake Gaza – and that moment is coming soon – the operation will have to be a very quick one,” said Steinitz.

 

An operation like this is likely to be distasteful to Israelis, but there really is no choice, said Steinitz. “This really should have been done in 2012, in Operation Pillar of Defense, when they fired rockets at Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. The IDF entered Gaza and managed to halt the firing of rockets for a time, but I was of the opinion that we should have continued.”

 

The model for Israel’s involvement in Gaza is the 2002 Operation Defensive Shield, which the IDF undertook in response to the massive wave of suicide bombing attacks in Israeli cities by terrorists from Judea and Samaria in the Second Intifada.

“We retook areas like Jenin, Tulkarem, and Hevron temporarily, but we did not remain there,” he said. “We went in, got rid of the terrorists, and left. And now that area is more or less quiet. The only reason we were able to stop the suicide bombing attacks of the second intifada was that we went in and halted the terror, and this what we are going to have to do in Gaza,” he added.

 

Joining Steinitz’s call was Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman. In a Facebook posting Thursday, Liberman expanded on comment she made Wednesday night, in which he said that Israel needed to retake Gaza.

“The Gaza disengagement was one of the most difficult chapters in Israeli history, causing an internal split and a major trauma to the 8,600 residents of Gush Katif who were thrown out of their homes. Some of them have still, until this day, succeeded in rising above the suffering they experienced,” he wrote.

 

Sharon and others who advocated the benefits of the disengagement said that there was no reason to worry; if Israel faced any trouble from Gaza, the IDF could walk right back in and take over again. But they were wrong, he said. “Since the intifada, Gaza has turned into a ‘kingdom of terror,’ with Hamas firing sophisticated missiles at Israel.” Operation Pillar of Defense brought just a small respite from the ongoing rocket attacks, and not the permanent quiet Israel and residents of the south need.

 

 

“We cannot allow the areas that Israel evacuated to be used for terror attacks on us,” said Liberman. “The only solution is a reversal of the process, a retaking of Gaza.”

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Edited by John R. Houk

 

Where words should have been capitalized I left intact. My sense this was intentional by the author.