Periodically Justin Smith reviews the murder of LaVoy Finicum by the FBI (taking the lead). Finicum’s death resulted from rancher/farmer protests of intruding on their livelihood in relation to taking of their animal stock. Can you say intrusive-abusive fees and land restrictions in the name of eco-Marxists and greedy corporations?
The ironic union is motivated by protecting useless species and/or mining of metal ores often times enriching American Leftists selling out to foreign entities that offers risk rather than benefit to Americans.
The upset rancher/farmer often will cite U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 while the Leftist scoffs at the legal reasoning notably due unchallenged Congressional legislation and Judicial Activism. YET the rancher/farmer stand looks at the Constitution’s temporary stipulations of Federal control which SHOULD enable an individual State to reclaim Federally controlled land.
This is yet another dot connecting many Left-Right issues if connected to completion probably end in Civil War for a resolution.
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A Martyr in Defense of Liberty
LaVoy Finicum’s Journey and His Destiny
By Justin O. Smith
Sent 1/11/2020 2:16 AM
Raised in the northwestern corner of Arizona Navajo territory, Robert LaVoy Finicum largely came to manhood in and around the sprawling area of Fredonia and Colorado City, Arizona, just off State Route 389, and Hildale, Utah, before his fateful death, his murder by law enforcement, near Burns, Oregon on January 26th 2016, just one day before his 55th birthday. His name is a hallowed one in the annals of the Patriot movement and the minds of most American Patriots, as a man who was willing to fight for those ideas of freedom and liberty and the Founding principles of America.
LaVoy led a small band of protesters, including Cliven Bundy’s sons, Ryan and Ammon, American Patriots who understood that the federal government and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) were consistently and constantly acquiring or simply taking water and grazing rights and land unconstitutionally, from farmers and ranchers across America. These men and women were standing firm for property rights under Our Bill of Rights, when they occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge on January 2nd 2016 and began a standoff with the FBI and other law enforcement agencies, that lasted forty-one days.
[Blog Editor: In using various search engines I was disappointed that most links turned were quite negative toward ranchers and farmers being weary of the Federal government utilizing land control to manage the increasingly rare individual rural land owner’s decisions of their own ranch or farm. The perspectives were Left-Wing by far in the majority. The search engines emphasized an element of White Supremacism and racism among ranchers and farmers really more angry about imposed land limitations than politics. Most Western ranchers and farmers are Caucasians so it’s a bit moronic to call them White Supremacists. HOWEVER when White Supremacist organizations seemingly appear to offer support to generational ranch/farm operations, WHO do you think these ranchers and farmers will gravitate toward? AT ANY RATE who are two perspectives of the Malheur Occupation that too me appear Leftist yet with some sympathy toward rancher/farmer plights. The perspective was written prior to Bundy Judicial exonerations and the Hammond pardons:
LaVoy and anyone else with a proper understanding of America’s Founding understood that the land is a gift of God to man to be individually commanded and cultivated to suit his purposes, and government officials do not have any right to interfere with this unalienable God-given right. In line with this same logic, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution clearly states that land within the boundaries of a state may only be acquired by the national government, if it has the consent of the state legislature; and then, it can only acquire it for the placement of military forts, arsenals, dock yards and other needful buildings. This procedure was created to ensure that the national government could not simply grab land and use the land as a means to coerce the states and people to do their bidding and to expand its power past the limitations of the Constitution. And, this same principle applies to water and grazing rights, especially those handed down to pioneers’ descendants from territorial grants preceding statehood.
It was from this point of view that LaVoy started his journey towards his destiny, in June 2015, as he wrote the following in two separate letters to the BLM, three days apart that read, in part: “At this time I feel compelled to stand (up for) the Constitution of our land and in doing so please do not feel I am attacking your character. This is not about cows and grass, access or resources, this is about freedom and defending our Constitution in its original intent … I am severing my association with the BLM.”
During this same time frame, LaVoy had expressed his displeasure over ranchers steadily being pushed out of grazing lands like the Grand Canyon-Pashant [Blog Editor: perhaps Parashant or Pesant?] and BLM tactics, after they called him and told him to remove 24 head of his cattle grazing on “BLM land”, on the Arizona Strip. LaVoy replied that he was “not asking permission”.
After the BLM drained one of his water storage tanks to fight a grass fire, he exclaimed: “[The water is] mine. It’s for my cows. I need it. Quit stealing.” He later took to Youtube where he asked, “You gonna come in there like You did with my friend, Clive?” He concluded: “Well, I’m telling you, leave me alone. Leave me alone, leave Cliven alone.”
This set the stage for LaVoy’s trip to Harney County, Oregon to join Ammon and Ryan Bundy in the Malheur Refuge Occupation, after seeing so many other small ranchers treated unfairly by the BLM, with those truths previously mentioned solidified after standing alongside Cliven Bundy, during his standoff with the BLM. He and all the others were truly making a stand against the overreach of the federal government, and in the process, they hoped to get all America thinking more about liberty.
Just as our Federalist Founders didn’t want an all-powerful federal government, so too the people, who still hold the ideas espoused by LaVoy and others, such as Cliven Bundy, are simply wary and opposed to any heavy concentration of power in the hands of the federal government, since they have already witnessed, too often first hand, the manner that power is so easily abused, especially through the BLM. However, neither do they see government as evil, or even a necessary evil.
Far from the “white supremacists” and “domestic terrorists” that yellow journalists, such as Kevin Sullivan, and the establishment propaganda press, like the Washington Post, attempted to portray them as being, these men and women were simply strong advocates for a responsible, limited government that favored local solutions and a federalist system inhibiting the centralization of all government into the hands of the few, adhering to the full and proper use of the checks and balances and good government practices set forth in the Constitution.
Noted by B.J. Soper, head of the Pacific Patriots Network, in 2016, and by many patriots previous to and after him [ZeroHedge]: “We’ve let the government step over the line and rule us, and that was never the intent of this country.” And I would add, it was certainly never the intent of our nation’s Founders.
And given the dangerous assaults and violence exhibited by extremists in the protests of Black Lives Matter [the other BLM] and Occupy Wall Street, there isn’t any justification for the actions of law enforcement against LaVoy and his fellow protesters, who were protesting peacefully, even if they had “taken” Malheur. People were initially able to come and go freely, until the protesters started blocking entrance from fear of federal government infiltration aimed at arresting and removing them, before they achieved their goals. LaVoy certainly wasn’t so dangerous or violent a man that he had to be so sorely mistreated and ultimately executed.
Whether he was armed or not is irrelevant. We regularly see many militiamen at peaceful protests all over America, both socialists and conservatives, going armed with long guns and pistols. Going armed at a protest, as is Constitutionally protected from many legal perspectives, isn’t a death warrant, or at least it shouldn’t be. Our Constitution doesn’t state that anyone must allow themselves to be abused by government agents, or anyone else, and it doesn’t prevent any American from engaging in a proper and lawful act of self-defense, especially if one is defending themselves against government tyranny.
Passenger Shawna Cox captured the entire miserable and dastardly event on her cell phone, and I have watched the video with sound, that captured the moment of LaVoy’s death, so many numerous times, often choking back my own angry tears, to think that people sworn to protect and defend the Constitution could so casually ignore it in this or any case; and, each time, I can only conclude this was a planned execution.
From the first roadblock stop and the shot that hit LaVoy’s driver side mirror to the second roadblock, it becomes well and beyond apparent that this was a planned execution. The bullets were flying at LaVoy’s vehicle before he could even come to a complete stop on the slippery snow-covered road, as the video does show, in fact, a bullet piercing the truck ceiling; and, as he exited the vehicle with hands raised, he was immediately hit in the side by a round, that caused him to flinch to that side — offering the assassins their excuse “he was reaching for a gun” — and multiple rounds then hit him and his life was ended.
Several FBI agents and Oregon Highway Patrol fired on LaVoy, but it was Casey Codding, of the Oregon Highway Patrol, who fired on the vehicle before it ever stopped. FBI agent Joseph Astarita fired the first shot after LaVoy jumped from the vehicle, to divert law enforcement’s attention away from his friends, and in the course of the execution, Codding shot LaVoy in the back twice, just like a coward, even though LaVoy was not brandishing a firearm or any other weapon — even though they knew that LaVoy was an innocent, peaceful rancher without any criminal history who had told them he was on his way to a meeting with the Sheriff of Grant County — even though they knew he had a large family of eleven children and was a good man who had never threatened anyone.
Most good police officers go their entire career without ever having to kill anyone. Codding has killed three people, including a teenager, “in the line of duty”. He’s also one of LaVoy’s murderers.
Whatever happened to “protect and serve”? Who has police forces across the country so indoctrinated and so intensely concerned to the point they see ranchers and family men as the greatest enemy to their country?
There wasn’t even one attempt to peacefully negotiate with the Malheur group and LaVoy Finicum, even though all LaVoy did at the refuge was speak to authorities in a non-threatening manner. It should deeply trouble all Americans that law enforcement had so little conscience and lack of reservation, they could easily shoot LaVoy with his hands raised; equally troubling, they didn’t even check him for a pulse, until they had walked around his body for fifteen minutes, as they placed their lack of respect for human life on full display before the American people.
Far too many law enforcement don’t even understand what it really means to defend the Constitution and freedom, as they set about destroying the freedoms of the American people in an out-of-control display of power at the behest of mayors and governors using them to acquire greater influence and power, i.e. as we currently see unfolding in Virginia via Governor Northam and the Democrat majority in the Virginia legislature regarding proposed gun control measures. Wicked “leaders” could not so subvert our freedoms without willing murderers like Casey Codding.
CASEY CODDING another Finicum shooter
Today, all Americans must face the certain fact that our federal government is out-of-control and corrupt, nearly beyond the point of salvation. It will kill its own citizens if we try to live too freely, or so it does seem, of late. Who can ever remove the image from their mind, of Vicky Weaver being shot through the head, as she held her baby in her arms in the doorway of her husband’s cabin on Ruby Ridge? An innocent American shot dead by FBI sniper, Lon Horiuchi, on August 21st 1992; look at Waco, Texas in 1993 and the overreaction of the ATF; one incident after another, until the standoff at Cliven Bundy’s ranch, when armed patriots came to his defense and said “No More”.
What has happened to this America I love so well, that one can barely distinguish between the Bad Guys and the Good Guys, in the ranks of those charged to protect and defend society? This case and the recent soft coup against the President indicate a great evil courses through their ranks today.
Throughout the history of the FBI, how many times has anyone in America seen any rancher draw his firearm on an FBI agent, or any other law enforcement agent? These ranchers aren’t common low-down thugs. They are fine Americans, the salt of the earth.
Has there ever been an FBI agent who defended or aided or stood alongside a rancher, because it was the right thing to do and it kept with their oath to defend the Constitutional rights of those in their care? Has any FBI agent ever stepped outside his role as a government pawn protecting special interests, to actually protect the people he was supposedly hired to serve and protect?
LaVoy had stated, time and again, a desire to make sure that the standoff ended peacefully, and up until the day of the ambush, there wasn’t any reason to believe that it wouldn’t, since LaVoy had been in constant contact with Sheriff Glenn Palmer, who was quite sympathetic to the cowboy’s cause. These men weren’t “anti-government”; they were anti-tyranny. LaVoy would be alive and well at home, with his family today, acquitted of all wrong-doing, just as many other defendants associated with the standoff have been, if the FBI and the Oregon Highway Patrol had not escalated the situation.
Ironically, LaVoy wrote a book entitled “Only By Blood and Suffering”, originally published in 2015, that foreshadowed his own death. The protagonist, a cowboy, dies in a shootout with the federal government, just as LaVoy finally did.
Real American patriots, such as Robert LaVoy Finicum, are far and few between these days, especially in the ranks of our elected officials, since so many so-called conservatives claim to stand for the Constitution against the federal government’s overreach, as they stand by silent and meek, in the wake of its insistent and continuous assaults against ‘We the People’ and our rights to life, liberty, property and freedom from the restrictions of arbitrary force. The faux conservatives are far too willing to allow federal power grabs to go unopposed, as a large, meddlesome, intrusive state and its progressive operated institutions undermine our private economy, economic liberty and the freedom to own property and allocate our own resources, enervating the country’s civic character; but LaVoy Finicum was willing to go all the way, sacrificing himself and giving his life, in his fight against the Bureau of Land Management, in order to preserve those values that were established centuries ago that respect our God-given rights.
Twenty-one short months of LaVoy’s life passed, between the time he showed up alone at the Bundy Ranch in 2014 and the moment he died a leader of the Malheur occupation in 2016. He died as he had lived, trying to make a difference and protecting the ideas and people he loved; he died a martyr in defense of freedom and liberty.
By Justin O. Smith
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This post is somewhat a Part II to Tony Newbill’s defense of Ranchers and Farmers as an explanation or reason that these land owners are upset with Government appropriation of land that has been in the traditional usage in the public domain or even stolen from private ownership.
Understanding what we are up against by reading the First Link PLAYING OUTSIDE THE RULES. Read the back and forth debate between Walley and Suckling … When you get done reading this back and forth, I would say that the ego of environmentalism has become more important than the realities of what sustainability means and the courts need to be asked to consider this line of thought when they are deciding on the use of resources going forward here!!!!!! Kieran Suckling got his name from an Irish saint. Now he thinks he is one: http://www.rangemagazine.com/archives/stories/winter99/playing_outside_the_rules.htm
Hundreds, if not thousands, of public land ranchers, loggers and miners have had their livelihoods destroyed by the ultra-effective strategies of the Southwest Center for Biological Diversity (SWC). They move like a band of guerrilla insurgents in their battle for public lands. The old, dogmatic environmental groups like the Sierra Club and the Audubon Society have became so bureaucratic and public opinion driven, that they have become slow and cumbersome in their efforts. SWC moves rapidly because decision making is concentrated in the activists who founded the group, and they appear not to give a damn about public opinion or the lives of people affected.
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Suckling describes his team as “incredibly driven and passionate about the work we do. We are creative and manic. We have not played by the general ‘rules’ of activism. Unpredictability, speed and creative action has made it very hard for extractive industries and the government to anticipate or respond to us. By keeping everyone, including ourselves, continually moving in new directions, we have been able to destabilize the status quo of subsidized logging, grazing, mining and urban sprawl…. Many groups are hampered by the fear of upsetting their congressional connections, their funders, the media, etc. While we feel the pull of such things, we daily remind ourselves that social change comes with social tension and that our job is to create that dynamic tension, regardless of the pressure of back-down or compromise.”
Their “manic” guerrilla tactics have been efficient, damn efficient. The group’s active litigation record-84 lawsuits in five years-on everything from waterways to woodlands to dams has attained national attention. The group says it has won 77 percent of final judgments. Suckling declares their success is built on what he describes as the two strongest forces of the environmental movement: science and law.
“The law says that the best possible science is to be used in managing our public lands,” he says, “so we conduct our own scientific research to show that’s not happening, then we litigate. It’s an incredible amount of work, but with an honest judge you can shut down a billion-dollar development in a heartbeat.”
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Kieran’s using “The force of the courts,” has created untold suffering and distress for many westerners.
The effects of courtroom and backroom bargaining by the SWC deeply trouble New Mexico rancher, Hugh McKinney. “What knocked me off my lease was a backroom agreement between the Forest Service and SWC [what some call The Tucson Back-Alley Agreement] that excluded ranchers. The judge did not approve it; he would not sign it. The agreement affects you to the point that’s all you talk about with friends and neighbors. It bothered me to the point that I have no spirit, no energy to plan for a future. They took my allotment with lies and I have no recourse to correct those lies. We were forced off our land, but the Forest Service called it volunteering to quit.”
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I asked Kieran’s old professor, Pax, a hard question during the telephone interview. “What do you think of the pain, human suffering, the dismantling of rural communities created by Kieran’s actions?”
The professor’s indifferent answer was a revelation that brought Suckling’s environmental philosophy back to its seed. “He doesn’t see any other way to proceed in his work without disruption like that! He doesn’t do it for the sake of disruption, but he is not going to stop his work simply because people are uncomfortable with it!”
I had asked Kieran similar questions in our Tucson meeting. Walley: “What about those people you are putting off the land and out of work? What is your ethic and social responsibility to those humans?” Suckling answered slowly and cautiously, choosing each word with care and sidestepping the question: “Our government and its corporate sponsors have created a system of subsidies that has to be abolished. They turned the lands into a commodity. We have to get public land users off this welfare system. It is not a simple thing to break those chains.” Walley: “But what about those people who are suffering during this change?” Suckling: “As I say, it is not a simple thing. We have entire communities that have grown up in this system of land-based government subsides. To change that is not a painless thing.” Walley: “You, are creating rural refugees!”
Kieran’s ego finally shows, his speech picks up speed and emphasis: “It’s more than rural. I’m dealing with the Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam and Los Angeles. Thirteen million people are used to getting their water this way, I say that’s great, but we are going to show them a different way to do it!” Walley: “You are forcing change on society and you are aware of it?” Suckling: “Yeah! Isn’t that what an activist is! What do you think an activist is? We change society!” Walley: “Can’t you do this in a humane and gentle way?
” Suckling: “It is sad, but I don’t hear you put that in a direct relationship to the effect on the land. I hear you talk about the pain of the people but I don’t see you match that up with the pain of the species.” Walley (dumbfounded): “What?” Suckling: “A loach minnow is more important, than say, Betty and Jim’s ranch-a thousand times more important. I’m not against ranching, it is a job. My concern is the impact on the land.” Walley: “Ranchers across America and Australia are going to read this article Kieran. What would you say to them?” Suckling: “The logging industry denied for years that logging damaged the land. Because they refused to acknowledge problems or change their operations, the came under tremendous public pressure, which led to a massive collapse of the industry on public lands. Thus far, the ranching industry is heading down the same path. Its obstacles will be far greater: many more species are threatened by grazing than by logging, the public is much more aware of environmental damage today than a decade ago, and activists are bringing skills and organizing abilities to the overgrazing issue which have been honed in the logging battles. Ranchers should take a long hard look at what happened with the logging industry. They should also take a long hard look at the reality of overgrazing on public lands. If the industry does not acknowledge and change, it won’t exist on public land two decades from now. Ultimately it will be ranchers, not environmentalists, who determine whether public lands grazing will continue.” Walley: “Do you see a middle-ground with the ranching industry? Compromise? If so, what are the parameters you could work within?” Suckling: “I sincerely believe that cattle ranching has done more damage to public lands in the Southwest than logging, mining, urban sprawl, or any other extractive use. While it is easy to see the scars of logging and sprawl, the denuding of groundcover, erosion of soils, and destruction of riparian vegetation is far more widespread. Numerous scientific studies confirm that species endangerment in the Southwest is more closely connected to grazing than any other single event. That said, I also have no personal dislike of cattle grazing. If cattle can be run on public lands and not destroy the environment, that’s fine with me, but it is up to the ranching industry to change its practices and demonstrate public lands can be economically grazed without damaging the land. That is the forum of compromise. We have worked out a few projects with loggers because it has been demonstrated that small trees in thickets can be removed while benefiting the environment. The ranching industry needs to demonstrate the same. Happy talk about ‘sustainability’ is just talk. Extrapolations from private lands in different ecosystems to public lands are unconvincing. The parameters, then, have to take the form of demonstration.”
…… And to point out a conception of Animal Racism with the way these Environmentalists are using Government laws to “Select Certain Species for Salvation over Others” and compare that to the concept of Human extinction under what is becoming obvious as an effort to engineer a die-off of humanity by locking up all the resources that humanity survives on. When do we see these same Environmentalists begin to Select themselves as the Threatened Species that needs a Law to protect their Existence????
What stands out as a Possible solution to bring balance back to what these Radicals are doing to human existence? Use the same tactics of lawsuits to sustain resources for humans that they have used for the species they have used as tools to lock up the resources away from Human access for Life!!!!! The Courts have NEVER been put in a situation to Decide if Human Life is More important than Animal Species. If Courts rule this way as far as making resources the topic of how to preserve Renewable usage for Human Life so that Human Life can then be what sustains Animal Life…. And the path Environmentalism is on will leave NO ONE Human Left to take care of the habitat that takes care of the Animal species. The Courts need to rule on this aspect of this effect going forward, starting with the Irrigation Water Lawsuit here in Central Oregon!!!!!!!! http://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/environment/3987937-151/frog-lawsuit-could-change-deschutes-river-flows
Environmentalists and irrigators have differing opinions on how a court order being sought for changes in Deschutes River flows upstream of Bend would affect farms, ranches and other water users.
The Center for Biological Diversity and WaterWatch of Oregon filed for a preliminary injunction last week, requesting the Bureau of Reclamation and three irrigation districts in Central Oregon manage the river’s water differently. The irrigation districts named in the filing are the Central Oregon, North Unit and Tumalo.
The problem, says Noah Greenwald, endangered species director for the Center for Biological Diversity, is this leaves the Oregon spotted frog and other river animals with little water. He said the group, which is based in Arizona and has an office in Portland, wants to find a way for the amphibians and irrigators to coexist.
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Currently the bureau keeps wintertime flows in the Deschutes River reduced in order to fill upstream reservoirs. Summertime flows are then higher to supply farmers, ranchers and other water users.
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So if the court orders a change in how the Deschutes River is managed this spring, people who draw water from the district may face “abrupt and severe restrictions,” according to a news release last week from the Deschutes Basin Board of Control. The group represents eight irrigation districts.
… READ ENTIRETY(Frog lawsuit could change Deschutes River flows: Environmental groups, irrigators have differing views on court case; ByDylan J. Darling; The Bulletin; 2/14/16 12:01AM – updated 2/16/16 11:27AM)
The Opening arguments on the 22nd regarding our [Tony Newbill is from Oregon] Irrigation water lawsuit with Suckling needs to hear this concept. We need to ask the courts to consider the sustainability of habitat for animal species if the trend of creating an environment that humans go extinct is not balanced out here before it’s too late. The crisis of human extinction is met with the Chaos of those events unfolding, because if we get to this kind of a stage in food production the chaos will override the efforts to keep habitat sustained!!!!
I would say that the ego of environmentalism has become more important than the realities of what sustainability means and the courts need to be asked to consider this line of thought when they are deciding on the use of resources going forward here!!!!!!
And here is more on how we can see the Egotism that’s gone array from the reality that the Courts should not be influenced with:
[Blog Editor: The link above is a short backgrounder of Kieran Suckling. The last paragraph provides an interesting micro-profile of Suckling:]
The New Yorker has dubbed Suckling’s organization, the Center for Biological Diversity, “the most important radical environmental group in the country” and Suckling a “trickster, philosopher, publicity hound, master strategist, and unapologetic pain in the ass.” The LA Weekly calls the Center “pound for pound, dollar for dollar, the most effective conservation organization in the country,” and says of Suckling: “Rimbaud reinvented poetry. Kierán Suckling would do the same with environmentalism.” (Animal Law Conference: Kierán Suckling; Lewis and Clark Law School)
The New Yorker has dubbed Suckling’s organization, the Center for Biological Diversity, “the most important radical environmental group in the country” and Suckling a “trickster, philosopher, publicity hound, master strategist, and unapologetic pain in the ass.” The LA Weekly calls the Center “pound for pound, dollar for dollar, the most effective conservation organization in the country,” and says of Suckling: “Rimbaud reinvented poetry. Kierán Suckling would do the same with environmentalism.”
The climate crisis is deepening, rare plants and animals are vanishing at an accelerating clip, and politicians — well supported by the polluter class — are freshly emboldened to chip away at laws that protect our water, air, environment and wildlife.
To be blunt, when it came to tackling the most important environmental issues of our age, President Obama’s first term was a disappointment. He has a chance to salvage his legacy (and ours) in his second term. Here are the five places to start:
Address climate change and ocean acidification. …
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Stem the extinction crisis.…
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Keep politics out of the Endangered Species Act and other vital environmental laws.…
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Safeguard our public lands, wild places and the Arctic. …
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Embrace a newer, cleaner energy. …
It’s time to reinvent our energy future by focusing on renewable sources of energy, including solar, geothermal and wind. Yes, these come with complications, and we’ve got to be smart about how we make the shift, but it can and must be done. There’s a smarter, saner way to move ahead, and that path is open to us. All we need now is the courage and political will to step onto it. (Mr. President: 5 Ways to Salvage Your Environmental Legacy (and Our Future)); By Kieran Suckling; HuffPost Green; 11/7/12 01:12 am ET – updated 1/6/13)
Suckling points out that he wants more of the Federal Lands Locked up and Obama has already locked up 265 million acres so the courts need to be asked HOW MUCH More before we cause a Major Disruption in Food Supplies Worldwide that causes People to become Chaotic and that Chaos interrupts the sustaining of Habitat????
As the presidential election heats up, ask yourself which candidate will repeal WOTUS, get control of the EPA and allow ranchers to get back to work without being held back by unfair regulations.
Don’t hold your breath for any of them to “repeal WOTUS” etc. There is not a dime’s worth of difference in any of them. They are all under the influence of radical environmentalism (because it is PC and being PC is necessary to get elected).
But, at least it is encouraging to see a main-stream rag like Beef Magazine is finally beginning to pay attention to what is going on in the (about to get really) Wild West. — jtl, 419
I don’t know about you, but in my opinion, the 2016 presidential election can’t come soon enough.
For the 22nd time during his nearly eight years in office, President Obama has taken advantage of the Antiquities Act of 1906, locking up millions of acres of land in the western states.
Obama’s designations total 265 million acres, and his most recent designation of the Sand to Snow National Monument, Mojave Trails National Monument and Castle Mountains National Monument totals 1.8 million acres.
[Blog Editor: The link summary is above in this post.]
So is he willing to cause people to become Chaotic????? Did his actions cause people like Hammonds, Bundys and Finicum to act out the ways in which they did or were made to be seen as such???????
4. [Blog Editor: This looks like a quote but I’m not sure where Newbill found it.] Safeguard our public lands, wild places and the Arctic. There are nearly 650 million acres of federal land in the United States.
But not all of those 650 acres of Federal Lands is Grazing production for food, as this link points out. So we need to start considering how much of an Impact has Environmentalist Land Grabs affected our sustainable food supplies, because we don’t know to what extent these same NGOs have affected other food producing areas around the world too????
Rangelands are distinguished from pasture lands because they grow primarily native vegetation, rather than plants established by humans. Rangelands are also managed principally with practices such as managed livestock grazing and prescribed fire rather than more intensive agricultural practices of seeding, irrigation, and the use of fertilizers.
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Fire is also an important regulator of range vegetation, whether set by humans or resulting from lightning. Fires tend to reduce the abundance of woody plants and promote herbaceous plants including grasses, forbs, and grass-like plants. The suppression or reduction of periodic wildfires from desert shrublands, savannas, or woodlands frequently invites the dominance of trees and shrubs to the near exclusion of grasses and forbs.[1]
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And don’t forget the Dead Harvest Video, it’s a glowing example of yet more reasons to consider if we are reaching a food supply crisis:
[Blog Editor:The above link begins with a Paul Gilding 2-minute CNN video I’m not embedding about Enviro-Marxist spiel in forcing people to take care of the environment for the good of planet, then comes the CNN article.]
For 50 years the environmental movement has unsuccessfully argued that we should save the planet for moral reasons, that there were more important things than money. Ironically, it now seems it will be money — through the economic impact of climate change and resource constraint — that will motivate the sweeping changes necessary to avert catastrophe.
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The eminent scientists of the Global Footprint Network, for example, calculate that we need about 1.5 Earths to sustain this economy. In other words, to keep operating at our current level, we need 50% more Earth than we’ve got.
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… Chinese Environment Minister Zhou Shengxian said last year, “The depletion, deterioration and exhaustion of resources and the worsening ecological environment have become bottlenecks and grave impediments to (our) economic and social development.” If I had said that in the ’90s, when I was the global head of Greenpeace, it would have been dismissed as doom-and-gloom extremism!
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As a result, the crisis will be big, it will be soon, and it will be economic, not environmental. The fact is the planet will take further bludgeoning, further depleting its capital, but the economy cannot — so we’ll respond not because the environment is under great threat, but because the science and economics shows that something far more important to us is jeopardized — economic growth.
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So when this crisis hits, will we respond or will we simply slide into collapse? Crisis elicits a powerful human response, whether it be personal health, natural disaster, corporate crisis or national threat. Previously immovable barriers to change quickly disappear.
In this case, the crisis will be global and will manifest as the end of economic growth, thereby striking at the very heart of our model of human progress. While that will make the task of ending denial harder, it also means what’s at risk is, quite simply, everything we hold to be important. The last time this happened was World War II, and our response to that is illustrative of both the denial and delay process and the likely form our response to this crisis will take.
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Do you find this hard to imagine today? Then try to imagine the alternative — that in a collapsing global economy and society we will stand by and simply watch the slide. There is no precedent in modern history on which to base that conclusion and plenty of evidence for the alternative. Humanity may be slow, but we are not stupid. Get ready for the great disruption. … You can READ ENTIRETY, but trust me it’s propaganda to get the normal person living a life to accept harsh State control of government, production, population and our lives. (The Earth is full; By Paul Gilding; CNN; 4/8/12 Updated 9:39 AM ET)
I have more examples of these kinds of things, but hey do we know what we are really up against here????
Tony Newbill examines the Land Grab environment that the American Left is imposing on Western ranchers, farmers, the job creating oil industry and so on. A lot of this goes to explain the reasons ranchers such as the Bundys, Hammonds, Finicums and more have begun to confront the government on Land Grab policies. Some of the underlying motives of the Left can be seen in the UN Agenda 21.
More on why we are where we are with Tyranny Today in America
By Tony Newbill
3/15/2016 9:39 AM
More on where the ideology comes from for a Totalitarian system which is tearing down the Liberty of the USA that those like Lavoy and Ammon have acted out against. When the truth is not Transparent Confused people is the result and that is why we see Conflict happen!!!!
For the last two weeks or so, I’ve been going back into the C-Span Archives to watch programs concerning the President’s Council on Sustainable Development (PCSD) that was created by Executive Order 12852 in 1993. I was doing that as a part of my research on the Bureau of Land Management related to the Bundy Family, the Hammond Family, the Yantis Family and countless other ranching families that the federal government declared war on.
Ammon Bundy and the Malheur Occupiers called attention to the BLM’s war on ranchers and for that I, as an American citizen am grateful because the issues they exposed are just the tip of the iceberg. They have done a great service for this nation that goes well beyond the war on ranchers.
The second meeting of the PCSD was held on October 18, 1993. The meeting was hosted by the Department of Commerce. Ron Brown was the Secretary of Commerce. He was the first speaker at the meeting.
This is a video clip of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown speaking at the second meeting of the President’s Council on Sustainable Development in 1993.
In four minutes, Ron Brown laid at the strategy for what was a coup d’etat on the American government and the establishment of a system to facilitate the development of a global commercial crime syndicate. Here are the main points from Ron Brown’s … READ THE REST (Government Overthrow of the People; By Vicky Davis; TVOI News; 3/7/16)
More on where the ideology comes from for a Totalitarian system
Here is a long History of Healthcare reform and what that reform in the minds of our Bureaucracy looks like. During the time Obamacare was being championed for approval Jonathan was in and out of the Whitehouse many times:
ObamaCare architect, Jonathan Gruber has been removed from the Massachusetts Health Connector Board after calling the American people stupid.
The MIT economist professor was involved in the construction of ObamaCare visiting the White House on several occasions and has also made several controversial statements linking abortion to eugenics, the reduction of welfare, crime, and black births.
A look at the White House visitor logs reveals that Gruber was a regular at the Obama White House.
While apologizing for his insulting statements to the American people Gruber was also grilled on controversial eugenics like statementshe made on abortion, referring to the poor as “marginal children” and calling for “positive selection.”
Agenda 21 is a product of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit, and it is the means by which Americans may soon be saddled with lower living standards. Agenda 21 is implementing “soft law” through ICLEI, which amounts to bribes and regulations imposed by state and local governments.
By Tom Eddlem – Liberty News Network Correspondent.
While we were all distracted with Weiner’s weiner, President Obama signed yet another Executive Order, this one to take control of all Rural Lands across the heartland. If you live outside the city, look out the Feds are coming. To help you of course.
Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX-01), who is also Chairman on House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, appeared on C-SPAN, Washington Journal and talked to Peter Slen about the situation in Oregon involving federal lands. He displayed maps on the program depicting issues that private land owners may face when the government possesses such a significant percentage of land within a state.
The same thing talked about here over water rights is what happened to Hammonds in Burns:
For those wishing a greater understanding of the issues facing property owners in the West, Ramona Hage gives a succinct explanation based on her years as the daughter of one of America’s foremost ranchers. Wayne Hage purchased his family’s ranch in 1978 and the struggle with the BLM and other federal agencies, including the Forest Service, started soon thereafter (see his last interview before he passed away here: https://youtu.be/f4hKiEnQdwU). The family has fought for their private property rights in court for over thirty years. (Posted courtesy of the National Press Club.) Further information is available at “sustainingamerica.com”
THIS is a Very Important Video, all states should do this:
March 2012, Governor Herbert signed HB148, Utah’s Transfer of Public Lands Act, which demands that the United States extinguish title to Federal Lands and turn them over to the state to manage by the end of 2014. There are a number or resources on the internet to get more background on the ACT and find out what other western states are doing at www.americanlandscouncil.org.
This week on the County Seat we ask, What is the status of Transfer of Public Lands in Utah?
A number of organizations such as, National Association of Counties, The National Republican Committee, and a number of States have passed resolutions in favor of Transfer of Public Lands.
We also had an opportunity to talk to two professors from the University of Utah about the constitutional and political issues involved in a transfer of public lands.
Tune in to ABC4Utah Sunday Morning at … READ THE REST
Congressman Bishop Addresses Document Showing Plot for Federal Land Grab
Congressman Rob Bishop addresses the Administration’s secret internal document that shows planning within the Department of Interior to designate as many as 14 new national monuments in 11 different states. Over 13 million acres of land were proposed as possible national monument sites.
Feds vs. Raisins: Small Farmers Stand Up to the USDA
“They want us to pay for our own raisins that we grew,” says Raisin Valley Farms owner Marvin Horne. “We have to buy them back!”
This is but one absurdity that Marvin and his wife Laura have faced during their decade-long legal battle with the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA). Every year, the Hornes plant seeds, tie vines, harvest fruit, and place grapes in paper trays to create sun-dried raisins. And every year, the federal government prevents them from bringing their full harvest to market.
It’s called an agriculture marketing order. Depression-era regulations meant to stabilize crop prices endanger the livelihoods of small farmers across the country, but the raisin marketing order is particularly egregious. An elected board of bureaucrats known as the Raisin Administrative Committee decides what the proper yield should be in any given year in order to meet a previously decided-upon price. Once they can estimate the size of the year’s harvest, they force every farmer to surrender a percentage of their crop to raisin packers like Sun-Maid. The packers then place the raisins in a “reserve pool,” a special holding vat for raisins that cannot be sold in the U.S. Eventually, the packers can sell the reserve pool raisins overseas at highly discounted prices set by the government or funnel them into school lunch programs for next to nothing.
The government allows them to sell one out of every two raisins.The farmers were always supposed to get a percentage of the money raised from the reserve pool raisins, but as profit margins dwindled over the years, so did the return to farmers. The tipping point came in 2003, when farmers received zero dollars in return for the 47 percent of the crop they had surrendered.
“You can’t work for a whole year and then give 47 percent of what you made away and still keep that business afloat,” says … READ THE REST
And it all comes back to what happened in Burns and everywhere else in the USA where there are resources. And restricting all citizens from their access to these fruits of their labors on a Capitalist economic growth policy due to Climate Change, but at the same time allowing some to access the resources….
The Clintons: is the Oregon standoff really about uranium? by Jon Rappoport
Is uranium at the heart of the Oregon Malheur federal-protestor standoff? That’s the question I’m asking. It isn’t a flippant question.
I realize there are many other issues swirling around this event. The Hammonds, the Bundys, militias, the feds, cattle grazing on federal lands, federal land grabs, and so on. This article isn’t meant to take apart those matters.
It’s meant to follow up on my previous article, in which I present a circumstantial case for the Clintons’ heavy involvement in a scheme that’s transferred 20% of US uranium production to Putin and Russia. And the key company in that piece is Uranium One. Remember the name. It’s apparently a major clue in what I’m about to discuss.
I also want to say, at the outset, that I don’t know how many independent news outlets and websites are covering the uranium question, or which outlet initiated this line of investigation. I’m relying on one provocative January 23 article at intellihub, by Shepard Ambellas:
Down in the body of that article, the author provides a link to a page at the US Bureau of Land Management (BLM), which is a federal agency under the Department of the Interior.
On that BLM page (“National BLM > OR/WA > Energy > Uranium Energy”), in …
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What does this have to do with Hillary and Bill Clinton? I’ll reprint my previous article so you can read the details, but the short version is: there’s a case to be made that they, through Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation, facilitated the sale of Uranium One to Putin and the Russians. And if so, and if this area of Oregon is projected to be part of that uranium mining deal, then we are looking at a stunning “coincidence”: the US federal government is coming down hard on a group of protestors who are occupying, for their own reasons, a very valuable piece of territory that goes far beyond the issue of private cattle grazing on government land.
It comes under the heading of … READ ENTIRETY (The Clintons: is the Oregon standoff really about uranium? By Jon Rappoport; Jon Rappoport’s Blog; 1/27/16)
This article says that Malheur County may be the BIGGEST Uranium Deposit in the USA!!!!!!!
In Malheur County, the poorest in Oregon, there is wealth buried in the ground.
It’s uranium—and the county has what may be the biggest sources in the U.S.
For the first time in decades, someone wants to mine uranium in the state. Oregon Energy LLC, owned by an Australian company, hopes to extract at least 18 million pounds of uranium oxide from a 450-acre southeast Oregon site called the Aurora property.
Uranium oxide, better known as yellowcake, now trades near $52 per pound, six times its value a decade ago. Yellowcake is used to fuel nuclear reactors and can be processed into a form suitable for nuclear weapons.
Oregon Energy President Lachlan Reynolds tells WW the mine will provide uranium for domestic nuclear plants, noting the U.S. produces only 5 percent of the uranium it uses.
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But the project, three miles from the Nevada border, worries some industry critics. Uranium mining—not practiced in Oregon since the 1960s—often left hidden poisons in the earth and groundwater. The Aurora project would be the first test of a 1991 Oregon law aimed at policing mining operations that use chemical extraction.
“I can’t think of a clearer example of what’s wrong with federal mining law,” says Larry Tuttle, director of the Center for Environmental Equity. “No one was talking about nuclear weapons in 1872 when the law was passed.”
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Machines will scrape the earth from an open-pit mine a half-mile in length. The heavy clay soil, placed in vats, will be sprayed with a chemical mixture that probably contains sulfuric acid. The acid bonds with the uranium, which is extracted, dried and sold as yellowcake. The leftover dirt is discarded in a “tailings pile” near the site.
The 1991 Oregon law—pushed by Tuttle despite mining industry opposition—was intended to prevent environmental damage that such mining has created elsewhere.
There’s GOLD up in them thar hills! And if we have learned anything in this world of greed and corruption we have learned to follow the money. Everyone knows that the debt notes issued by the Federal Reserve have no value; but natural resources such as gold, diamonds, and even uranium (which is more valuable than gold BTW) do have intrinsic value and are real tangible things that can be traded independently.
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Bundy’s ranch just happens to be at “GOLD” Butte volcano in Nevada… The same “Gold Butte” that Harry Reid wanted to “level” out for a solar farm. Yes, let’s just level out the “gold butte” and all those minerals, and then go to Vegas… oops, er I mean … build a solar farm.
This Gold Butte actually has quite a wild history of government trying to take the land, including closing the only post office in the area so that packages could not be delivered which put a real damper on things for those trying to live in the area. Another interesting bit of information is that the wiki page for Gold Butte Ghost Town was recently updated to reflect “new” changes to a page for a “ghost town”. Why would it need to be updated? Check out this … READ THE REST (The Secret That NO ONE Wants You To Know About The Standoff in Oregon; By Trent-004; Freedom from Government | Official Website; 1/16/16)
This totally ties right into the basis for what is driving the food and fiber producers like the Bundy’s and Finicum’s distrust and confrontations with the Federal Government.
“President Obama’s Overwhelm the System” is what this Sue and Settle Strategy looks like:
Wayne Allyn Root opined that President Obama “is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos.”
Conservative political commentator Wayne Allyn Root opined back in 2010 that President Obama “is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos.”
Claim: Wayne Allyn Root wrote in an opinion piece that President Obama is “purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy.”
CORRECTLY ATTRIBUTED
Example: [Root, June 2010]
Rahm Emanuel cynically said, “You never want a crisis to go to waste.” It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama’s presidency.
Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos — thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.
Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of ’83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they’re alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.
Origins:Wayne Allyn Root, the Libertarian Party’s 2008 vice presidential candidate, is a political commentator whose columns appear on various conservative web sites and the author of several books, including The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gambling & Tax Cuts. He penned a biweekly political opinion column published the … READ THE REST
Sue and Settle is a chronic disease that is affecting the Liberties set forth in the US Constitution with the ESA.
ST. GEORGE– Inspired by the actions of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his stance against federal control of public lands, a rancher on the Arizona Strip has also declared the Bureau of Land Management to be an illegitimate agency and said he will no longer comply with or recognize it.
“I hereby cancel all my contracts with the BLM,” LaVoy Finicum, of Cane Beds, Arizona, wrote in a letter he sent to the U.S. Solicitor General following his decision to no longer acknowledge BLM or its policies. Thus far, he has chosen to discontinue paying grazing permit fees and to ignore when the BLM allows certain allotments – or pasture areas – to be used for grazing.
Backing beliefs with action
Unlike Bundy, who has had a strained relationship with the BLM and similar federal agencies for over 20 years now, Finicum’s relationship with the local BLM has been largely positive and civil.
“Some people think I’ve been oppressed by the BLM and hassled by the BLM and things have not been going well,” Finicum said, “but the history between me and the BLM has been very good.”
So what happened to change Finicum’s mind concerning the BLM and it’s [sic] oversight of public lands?
MOCCASIN, Arizona – Pickup trucks and horse trailers filled the parking lot and stretched down the street next to a community park in Moccasin, Arizona, Friday, as concerned ranchers and representatives from agencies like the Arizona Farm Bureau and the Arizona Game and Fish Department gathered together. Their aim? Fighting to save a way of life they say is being threatened.
“They’re backing the ranchers into a corner, and you’re going to see a lot of Cliven Bundys out there,” Bill Gubler, a rancher from Santa Clara, said.
Gubler currently ranches on the Arizona Strip and has cattle grazing allotments there, as do … READ THE REST
ARIZONA STRIP – The Mohave County Sheriff’s Office in Arizona announced Thursday that Sheriff Jim McCabe has sent letters to federal officials in opposition to the proposed Grand Canyon Watershed National Monument.
The Grand Canyon Watershed National Monument would designate 1.7 million acres of Arizona land as a national monument, including lands on the Arizona Strip and the North Kaibab and Tusayan Ranger Districts of the Kaibab National Forest.
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Below is the sheriff’s letter in its entirety:
I write to express my opposition to the formation of the proposed Grand Canyon Watershed National Monument by presidential executive order.
Creating a new and enormous – 1.7 million acres – National Monument amounts to a significant Federal land grab. It would add additional Federal regulation to human activity, including ranching, hunting, and recreational access.
It is just this sort of Federal overreached that has led to proposals for states to assume control of the huge areas of public land in the American West. Creation of vast new National Monuments not by Congressional open debate and action but by presidential executive order, even while lawful, would contribute further to distrust of the Federal action.
I ask for your support in opposing the proposed Grand Canyon Watershed National Monument.
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Ranchers, members of the mining industry, hunters and others who reside, recreate and make a living in the affected areas say such land grabs have been detrimental in other places where they’ve occurred. They maintain that approving the designation of the Grand Canyon Watershed National Monument will impact the livelihoods of many, impede land use, and hinder the ability of ranchers and others to maintain and exercise wise stewardship over the land and continue effectively doing business.
September 9, 2011 – A FEDERAL JUDGE approved the landmark 757 species legal agreement between the Center for Biological Diversity and the Fish and Wildlife Service.
November 20, 2012 – For the first time since 1996, the number of plants and animals waiting for federal protection dropped below 200, HIGHLIGHTING THE SUCCESS OUR AGREEMENT. According to the 2012 “candidate notice of review” released today by the Service, 192 SPECIES ARE AWAITING ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT PROTECTION.
February 8, 2013 – The Fish and Wildlife Service released a four-year work plan detailing the years in which ALL the NOT-YET-PROTECTED SPECIES IN OUR AGREEMENT would get protective decisions or critical habitat designations.
THE “CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY” IS BATTING NEARLY 1000 “SUE AND SETTLE” ENDANGERED SPECIES.
BASED ON ONE FEDERAL JUDGE that approved the landmark 757 species “SUE AND SETTLE” legal agreement between … READ THE REST
This procedure might be one we would want to employ as a way to challenge the Spotted Frog Listing, and there is an opinion in this link that suggests that the Obama Administration is Favoring this method of use of the ESA;
For years environmentalists have usurped individual private property rights and thwarted economic development. Now, thanks to Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, it appears that the job creators may have finally learned something from the extreme tactics of groups, like the Wild Earth Guardians and the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD), which have been using the courts to their advantage by filing lawsuits against the federal government.
On Monday, March 17, on behalf of the state of Oklahoma and the Domestic Energy Producers Alliance (DEPA), Pruitt filed a lawsuit against the federal government, specifically the U.S. Department of the Interior and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS). The lawsuit alleges the “FWS engaged in ‘sue and settle’ tactics when the agency agreed to settle a lawsuit with a national environmental group over the [Endangered Species Act] listing status of several animal species, including the Lesser Prairie Chicken.”
… A “threatened” listing would restrict the land use in the bird’s 40-million-acre, five-state habitat: Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas, New Mexico, and Kansas. The affected area includes private, state, and federal lands—lands rich in energy resources, ranch and farm land—plus municipal infrastructure, such as water pipelines and electric transmission.
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A DEPA spokesman states: “This designation could disrupt drilling and exploration on hundreds of thousands of very promising oil and gas lands in this part of the country.” The CBD has made no secret of their disdain for oil and gas extraction and has filed many successful lawsuits specifically to block development.
Pruitt says: “the sue-and-settle timelines force the FWS to make determinations without a thorough review of the science. This violates the original statute requiring sound science before listing species.”
Stephen Moore, formerly with the Wall Street Journal, explains: “Under the Obama Administration, the feds have entered into a consent agreement with the environmentalists to rush forward a judgment on an unprecedented number of species. A 2012 Chamber of Commerce study found record numbers of such ‘sue and settle’ cases under Obama.” Pruitt adds: “Under President Obama, we have had sue and settle on steroids.”
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The Democrats are in a bind. The rushed listings are being forced by the environmental base, which is myopically focused on the anti-fossil-fuel (job-killing) agenda of restricting oil-and-gas development on Western lands and isn’t looking at the bigger political consequences.
It appears the decision has been made. Sources tell me that Dan Ashe, Director of the FWS, has called a meeting on Capitol Hill to brief the stakeholders prior to Thursday’s announcement. If he decides to list the LPC, Pruitt’s lawsuit could be just the first shot that ignites the new rebellion pushing states to take control of the lands within their borders.
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Sue and Settle
It is these tactics, along with a friendly Obama government, that has led to the “sue and settle” procedure that Pruitt’s lawsuit is hoping to end. The lawsuit is seeking “declaratory and injunctive relief for violations of the ESA.” Moore reports: “The relief is intended to overturn designations of dozens of species added to the threatened or endangered list through the ‘sue and settle’ process.”
EDITOR’S NOTE: The writer is addressing the question, “Does EPA’s sue-and-settle policy circumvent the legislative and regulatory process?”
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… starting in 2009, the Environmental Protection Agency took control of many state visibility programs, costing states millions of dollars with no discernible visibility improvement.
And the states were not even told it was happening. It was authorized by a Consent Decree between EPA and an outside environmental advocacy group. EPA claimed that it had no choice but to follow the legally binding settlement and override the states’ plans.
This practice, known as “sue and settle,” gives special-interest groups a legal mechanism to reprioritize and control agency rulemaking activities with little or no public participation.
… These settlements all occurred without notifying or allowing key stakeholders—the public, the states, the regulated community or Congress—to participate.
How do special-interest groups take control of an agency’s rulemaking activities and circumvent congressional funding priorities?
An advocacy group sues an agency to enforce a missed statutory deadline for agency action. Rather than defend against the lawsuit, the agency simply agrees to settle and take the action or issue the new rule demanded by the group, within a deadline set by the group.
Without any notice to the public, the settlement agreement and draft Consent Decree are filed with a court. Only after the Consent Decree is filed does it become public.
Once the court signs the draft Consent Decree, the agency is legally bound to comply with … READ ENTIRETY (Pro: ‘Sue and Settle’ bypasses democratic process; By William Kovacs; GazetteXtra; 12/19/13)
And the Undemocratic process of Sue and Settle is being done to our Community by the same ones that have a Massive Track Record of doing it and they need to be called out as these links show them to be Undemocratic!!!!!!!!
Liberal Activists, Mainstream Media, Law Enforcement Bear Partial Blame for Showdown in Oregon that Led to Death of LaVoy Finicum
WASHINGTON, DC – Left-wing activists and news outlets that only partially cover their activities are in part to blame for the confrontation in Oregon that led to the death of LaVoy Finicum, says the National Center for Public Policy Research.
That’s because left-wing organizations often use civil disobedience without consequences, which leads the public to believe law-breaking in pursuit of political or public policy goals can take place without serious consequences.
Parts of the news media are complicit because they cover stories in ways that help the left-wing organizations achieve their goals.
Kieran Suckling, the executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity, a left-wing green group, was repeatedly covered in the news media criticizing those occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge (for example, here, here, here, here, here). No story we found mentioned that Suckling has been found guilty in court (here, here) for occupying private property and refusing to leave as part of a political protest, or that he has been arrested (and even bragged about it by issuing a press release) for civil disobedience as recently as 2014.
“In yet another case of ‘do as I say, not as I do,’ the environmental left is protesting civil disobedience by citizens while it practices and/or condones civil disobedience itself,” said David Ridenour, president of the National Center for Public Policy Research.
“Kieran Suckling, the executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity, a left-wing green group that sues the government while expecting the taxpayers to pay its legal bills, has gone to Oregon to protest the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Yet he has been found guilty of much the same offense. Occupying another’s property without … READ THE REST(Liberal Activists, Mainstream Media, Law Enforcement Bear Partial Blame for Showdown in Oregon that Led to Death of LaVoy Finicum; By Frank DuBois; The Westerner; 1/27/16)
Liberal Activists, Mainstream Media, Law Enforcement Bear Partial Blame for Showdown in Oregon that Led to Death of LaVoy Finicum
Left-Wing Civil Disobedience Often Goes Unpenalized, With Media Complicity
Is It Any Wonder Some Conclude Civil Disobedience is a Safe and Consequence-Free Activity?
Washington, D.C. – Left-wing activists and news outlets that only partially cover their activities are in part to blame for the confrontation in Oregon that led to the death of LaVoy Finicum, says the National Center for Public Policy Research.
That’s because left-wing organizations often use civil disobedience without consequences, which leads the public to believe law-breaking in pursuit of political or public policy goals can take place without serious consequences.
As the presidential election heats up, ask yourself which candidate will repeal WOTUS, get control of the EPA and allow ranchers to get back to work without being held back by unfair regulations.
Don’t hold your breath for any of them to “repeal WOTUS” etc. There is not a dime’s worth of difference in any of them. They are all under the influence of radical environmentalism (because it is PC and being PC is necessary to get elected).
But, at least it is encouraging to see a main-stream rag like Beef Magazine is finally beginning to pay attention to what is going on in the (about to get really) Wild West. — jtl, 419
I don’t know about you, but in my opinion, the 2016 presidential election can’t come soon enough.
For the 22nd time during his nearly eight years in office, President Obama has taken advantage of the Antiquities Act of 1906, locking up millions of acres of land in the western states.
Obama’s designations total 265 million acres, and his most recent designation of the Sand to Snow National Monument, Mojave Trails National Monument and Castle Mountains National Monument totals 1.8 million acres.
With several months left in office, Obama is expected to designate another 10 million acres of land in Oregon, Arizona and Utah. What’s worse, Obama will more than likely continue to use his executive power when making these designations without any public comment period or economic studies.
Locking out this land under the guise of protecting it negates the fact that ranchers with grazing permits pay to run the ground and also are responsible for the management of those leases. Somehow I have my doubts about the federal government’s abilities to manage this expansive amount of land, and with our nation’s multi-trillion dollar debt, I don’t see how there is enough funding available to make improvements, control weeds, manage bison and elk herds, and fight fires on this land.
Of course, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to ranchers fighting the governmentagainst a powerful land grab. In fact, an … READ THE REST (Ranchers losing ground in government land grab; By Amanda Radke; Land & Livestock International, Inc. – Originally in Beef Daily; 2/29/16)
Environmental shakedown through bastardized application of science, policy, and education.
Disgruntled ex-federal employees found a way to bilk taxpayers out of millions of dollars using the flawed Endangered Species Act.
Over a 3-year period, 2009-2012, Department of Justice data show American taxpayers footed the bill for more than $53 million in so-called environmental groups’ legal fees—and the actual number could be much higher. The real motivation behind the Endangered Species Act (ESA) litigation, perhaps, could have more to do with vengeance and penance than with a real desire to protect flora and fauna.
On May 7, I spoke at the Four Corners Oil and Gas Conference in Farmington, New Mexico. During the two-day event, I sat in on many of the other sessions and had conversations with dozens of attendees. I left the event with the distinct impression that the current implementation of the ESA is a major impediment to the economic growth, tax revenue, and job creation that comes with oil-and-gas development. I have written on ESA issues many times, most recently I wrote about the lesser prairie chicken’s proposed “threatened” listing (which the Fish and Wildlife Service [FWS] listed on March 27) and the Oklahoma Attorney General’s lawsuit against the federal government over the “sue and settle” tactics of FWS and the Department of the Interior.
While at the conference, I received an email announcing that FWS has asked a federal court for a 6-month delay in making a final determination on whether to list the Gunnison sage grouse as an endangered species—moving the decision past the November elections. Up for re-election, Senator Mark Udall (D-CO) “cheered” the extension request. The E & E report states: Colorado elected leaders “fear the listing could have significant economic impacts.”
Kent Holsinger, a Colorado attorney specializing in lands, wildlife, and water, posited: “Senator Udall is among those lauding the move—perhaps because a listing decision would affect his fate in the U.S. Senate. Gunnison sage grouse populations are stable, if not on the increase. In addition, myriad state, local and private conservation efforts have been put into place over the last decade. Those efforts, and the Gunnison sage grouse, are at risk if the FWS pursues listing.”
The report continues: “WildEarth Guardians is not opposing the latest extension after Fish and Wildlife agreed to some extensive new mitigation measures that will be made in the interim, including increasing buffer zones around sage grouse breeding grounds, called leks, and deferring coal, oil and gas leasing, said Erik Molvar, a wildlife biologist with WildEarth Guardians.” It goes on to say: “But the Center for Biological Diversity, which is a party to the settlement agreements with WildEarth Guardians, said the latest extension is a bad move for the grouse, which it says has needed ESA protections for years.”
Two important items to notice in the Gunnison sage grouse story. One, the power the environmental groups wield. Two, part of appeasing the environmental groups involves “deferring coal, oil and gas leasing.”
It is widely known that these groups despise fossil fuels. The Center for Biological Diversity (CBD)brags about its use of lawsuits to block development—but it is not just oil and gas they block, it is … READ THE REST (Environmental shakedown through bastardized application of science, policy, and education; By Marita Noon; Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow; 5/14/14)
The standoff in Oregon between Ranchers (that came from all over the Western U.S.) and Federal and Oregon State government for all intents and purposes has ended with the arrest of its Nevada leader Ammon Bundy and the murder of fellow leader LaVoy Finicum. And recently Ammon’s father – Cliven Bundy – was arrested for leading a dispute protest of ranchers with the Federal government over what should be free-range grazing.
Sadly the Bundys and the Hammonds (thrown in jail for letting a back-burn started on their property to stop the BLM burn from destroying the ranch) dispute with the Federal government is being painted as domestic terrorism by the Mainstream Media and as lawbreaking by even many pro-gun enthusiasts. What the media fails to inform YOU is the reason these Western USA state Ranchers and Farmers are upset enough to take on the resource of the Federal government. Tony Newbill takes on the project of disseminating info you probably won’t see on TV or read in your newspapers. The central theme is: the Federal government has acquired HUGE amounts of land from the Western states as a condition for statehood and now the Federal bureaucracy is telling Ranchers and Farmers what they can and can’t do including charging fee usage of what should be considered public land at the least for grazing and water issues.
At this point I trust our State National Guard to enforce state Constitutional authority over the Federal takeover of state rights more than the State Legislative branch and here why. This is the consolidator of states rights if it gets activated. And a coup by the states’ National Guard to restore the states rights against this, would be the only way back. So we need to bring this to the attention of the people and make it clear that this will THREATEN FOOD SUPPLIES with the ideology that will be implementing this Waters Rule:
Tony Newbill has found two stories that are not really similar except perhaps in one thought; viz. the focus is in government overreach as in utilizing too much police authority as per the rights of American citizens.
The first examines that LaVoy Finicum’s murder was motivated more by government greed via the deception of ecological concern. Evidently the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) usurped public land in Oregon under the auspices of protecting a bird that MIGHT go on the endangered species, BUT when the bird did not make the list the BLM began collaborating with a mining company that wants to mine for uranium to turn it into yellow cake. The thing is the process of extracting the yellow cake is a probably environmental disaster toward ranchers and farmers in that Oregon area.
The second case involved the Dearborn Police chasing a woman that fled a mall in which she aimed her car at mall security. As the chase ensued the Dearborn Police managed to place the lady’s car into an enough of a standstill for massive bullet to be shot at the fleeing 31-year-old lady (Janet Wilson) who died from the bullets. Two things of note to me is that the Dearborn Police have a habit propping up the Dearborn Muslim majority’s acts of stifling the First Amendment rights of Christians AND the 31-year-old lady was an African-American. Sadly, within a 40-day period the 31-year-old Black lady was the second African-American that died (Kevin Matthews) at the hands of the Dearborn Police through the same use of unreasonable force.
The Hegelian Dialectic: Problem, Reaction, Solution
Oregon Standoff: Robert ‘LaVoy’ Finicum Dead, Bundys Arrested
Tony Newbill
Sent: 1/31/2016 11:03 AM
The police in cooperation with the FBI got their men about 20 miles north of Burns, Oregon on Tuesday, January 26, 2016. Mark that day in history, folks, as the day the old west was given a warning shot. A warning shot that said very loud and clear to the American public: Don’t mess with the government, don’t question authority, don’t stand up for the Constitution or your supposed “rights,” just submit or die.
Once there was a cowboy who let his herd of cattle roam free on thousands of acres of wilderness. He knew that they would live in harmony with the other critters, and that the land would benefit. He made sure that there was plenty of water and plenty of room so that the land would flourish. You see, if given enough room, critters are good for the land. They eat the overgrown forage and leave behind fertilizer that helps new forage to grow, which nourishes every other critter. Each critter has enough room to get out of the other one’s way, and everyone is happy.
That is, until the government in its infinite “scientific” wisdom, decides that cattle are bad for the land.
But is that the real reason that cattle ranching, as it has been done for over a hundred years, is now scheduled to become obsolete? A thing of the past – something to be disdained and thrown to the curb?
Picture a pristine wilderness devoid of the ravages of civilization and industrial development. Birds flying overhead and deer roaming free. Paradise as far as the eye can see. And in the middle of this haven designated as “public lands” set apart to be protected by the benevolence of the Federal Government’s Bureau of Land Management (BLM), is an open pit uranium mine.
Say what??? You have got to be kidding me! Nope. This is what the BLM has on the back burner for the Malheur Wilderness area.
And the cowboys? Well, the last ones who attempted to get in the way of this takeover of land for the “public good” are now sentenced to 5 years in prison and branded as terrorists for protecting their land and cattle and forced to “grant the BLM first right of refusalif the Hammonds ever sold their ranch.”
The Dark Side of Environmental Conservation
Environmental conservation is a good thing. But is that what is really being done by the BLM when it takes over land? Maybe what the BLM is actually doing is grabbing land in the name of environmental conservation and placing it under the sole control of the government and out of the hands of we the people in order to do with it as the government pleases.
The lands that the government collects are called “public lands.” The BLM is charged with managing “public lands,” and routinely leases and sells mineral rights on the very same lands that it is supposed to manage and protect.
BLM’s Planning Manual 1601 explains the use of public lands:
Land use plans ensure that the public lands are managed in accordance with the intent of Congress as stated in FLPMA (43 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.), i.e., under the principles of multiple use and sustained yield. As required by FLPMA, the public lands must be managed in a manner that protects the quality of scientific, scenic, historical, ecological, environmental, air and atmospheric, water resource, and archaeological values; that, where appropriate, will preserve and protect certain public lands in their natural condition; that will provide food and habitat for fish and wildlife and domestic animals; and that will provide for outdoor recreation and human occupancy and use by encouraging collaboration and public participation throughout the planning process. In addition, the public lands must be managed in a manner that recognizes the Nation’s need for domestic sources of minerals, food, timber, and fiber from the public lands.
According to the BLM Planning Manual, the agency is charged with maintaining the ecological environment of its public lands. That is, of course, unless it decides that mining for uranium supersedes any such directive.
Uranium on BLM-Administered Lands in OR/WA
In September 2011, a representative from Oregon Energy, L.L.C. (formally Uranium One), met with local citizens, and county and state officials, to discuss the possibility of opening a uranium oxide (“yellowcake”) mine in southern Malheur County in southeastern Oregon. Oregon Energy is interested in developing a 17-Claim parcel of land known as the Aurora Project through an open pit mining method. Besides the mine, there would be a mill for processing. The claim area occupies about 450 acres and is also referred to as the “New U” uranium claims.
This is conservation? Here is the open pit uranium mining proposal:
Uranium mine plan
Oregon Energy’s proposal calls for extracting ore from a mile-long, 600-foot wide, 250-foot deep open pit 10 miles west of McDermitt and 3 miles north of the Oregon-Nevada border. The mine, adjoining the former Bretz Mercury Mine, a contaminated open-pit site from the 1960s, would cost $200 million to develop and uranium extraction could continue for up to 20 years, said Oregon Energy President Lachlan Reynolds.
Plans call for the ore to be crushed and mixed with an acid solution in enclosed vats to leach out the uranium, he said. The acid would bond with the uranium and when dry become a sand-like powder called uranium oxide concentrate, or yellowcake. Yellowcake would bring $52 per pound and could fuel nuclear reactors or be processed into weapons.
The likelihood of sulfuric acid being used in … READ THE REST
Problem: The government wants the land.
Reaction: Demonize cattle ranchers and blame the cattle for a decline in the sage grouse in order to free the land for alternate government use by pitting environmentalists against cattle grazing and the ranchers to gain the required reaction of placing the land under further restrictions in order to be protected from environmental harm.
Solution: The government gets the land.
The government wants the land for “conservation” efforts. In order to achieve this, the ranchers with their cattle and any private property interests need to go so that there is no interference. This way the land can be “protected” by the BLM and used for any purpose that the government wants it for, including uranium development.
The question then becomes – who will get the land – the sage grouse or uranium miners. In either case, the ranchers are out and the cattle can be consigned to your friendly neighborhood CAFO (concentrated animal feeding operation).
The rancher takes the blame, and the government does as it pleases. If the grouse is listed as an endangered species, the land is taken for conservation. If it isn’t, the land is taken for corporate energy and uranium mining. A win/win for big government. It’s called hedging your bets. Either way, the little guy loses and the government wins, and the rancher is left holding the bag. He either gets booted out by the sage grouse, or booted out by uranium interests, and there goes another source of local food and independence, leaving us ever more dependent on the corporate food chain.
Since a decision was made to not list the sage grouse as an endangered species in 2015, guess which interests won? You’ve got it – mining. Now the only problem left is to work out how to make the energy industry operations appear “beneficial” to the environment so as not to concern the sage grouse supporters, and to declare more public land as “cattle free,” again, for the benefit of the environment. Not a problem that a good Public Relations campaign can’t handle. Cha-Ching!
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Wayne County Medical Examiner rules death of woman shot by Dearborn police a homicide (UPDATED) Yesterday’s fatal shooting of a 31-year-old Detroit woman by Dearborn police has been ruled a homicide by the Wayne County Medical Examiner’s office.
Janet Wilson was shot Wednesday afternoon by a Dearborn officer after driving erratically and allegedly trying to run over an officer on Hubbard Drive near the Southfield Freeway. Witnesses had reported Wilson acting strangely at nearby Fairlane Town Center and mall security was notified.
Wayne County Medical Examiner rules death of woman shot by Dearborn police a homicide (UPDATED)
By Andrea Blum
Published: Sunday, January 31, 2016
Press & Guide
Yesterday’s fatal shooting of a 31-year-old Detroit woman by Dearborn police has been ruled a homicide by the Wayne County Medical Examiner’s office.
Janet Wilson was shot Wednesday afternoon by a Dearborn officer after driving erratically and allegedly trying to run over an officer on Hubbard Drive near the Southfield Freeway. Witnesses had reported Wilson acting strangely at nearby Fairlane Town Center and mall security was notified.
Michigan State Police Lt. Mike Shaw said the 31-year-old woman’s vehicle got stuck in traffic as she left the mall, and she tried to flee as officers approached.
Shaw says a Dearborn officer fired when the woman almost ran over an officer. Wilson died of multiple gunshot wounds and the officer was treated for non-life threatening injuries.
Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad said both of the officer-involved shooting incidents are being independently criminally investigated by outside agencies, and that the department is committed to transparency and disclosure by fully cooperating with the investigations.
“Upon conclusion of the criminal investigations we will be conducting internal reviews on both of these incidents,” Haddad said. “While we are very proud of our long history of Civil Rights advocacy as well as our history of appropriate use of force, we will closely examine all of our policies and procedures to ensure that we are employing the latest training and following national best practices in all of our responsibilities to the community.
Once we are allowed and it is appropriate to do so, we fully intend to make public disclosures regarding these incidents.”
Tony Newbill points out that the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is the bureau arm of the Executive Branch that has nefariously stolen land from farmer, ranchers and even miners in the Western USA to take the wealth out of private hands and into the hands of Big Brother. This is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
You have to realize this stealth robbery conducted by the BLM affects and has affected ranchers and farmers for some time; however, the Bundy standoff in Nevada and the Bundy-led standoff centered around the Hammonds in Oregon have gotten the attention Western families.
Tony begins with the Oregon standoff which include two rather lengthy Youtube videos that recording of what was then live streaming of Pete Santilli’s web-show. It is apparent to me that Santilli is boldly trying to cover something that the Mainstream Media has for the most part ignored except to vilify the ranchers and that the Federal government has actually taken lengths to block the public from receiving the full picture of BLM land thievery.
Yesterday in a historic event, the Idaho III% dropped by the FBI stronghold in Burns, Oregon to introduce themselves and to explain to the heavily harmed agents, exactly what they were doing in Harney County. The first few minutes were tense as the surprised FBI agents sought to figure out what was going on.
TVOI News gives a standing salute to the Idaho III% for their boldness and to the FBI Agents for remaining calm in what was no doubt a first for them.
The video of the meeting was shot by Michael Emry, owner and cameraman for The Voice of Idaho News (TVOI News).
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Historic: Heavily Armed Idaho 3 Percenters Roll Up On FBI Compound (Pacific Patriot Network) – VIDEO CREDIT : Embed Reporter Michael Emery of The Voice of Idaho (http://tvoinews.com)
This is the very first time in U.S. History that the Federal Bureau of Investigations has ever been confronted by heavily armed members of the Patriot community. The leadership team of the Pacific Patriot Network rolled up on the FBI compound with approximately 20 vehicles and entered into firm, but diplomatic dialogue with FBI agents.
Again, to emphasize the significance of this historic event; the Constitutional Crisis at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge is being peacefully resolved with direct intervention by the PPN.
More updates, analysis and coverage will follow this important report. PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH MEMBERS OF THE ENTIRE PATRIOT COMMUNITY……especially Stewart Rhodes and other nay-sayer fake-triots who lack the capacity to lead our republic to a Constitutional Restoration.
To all those who only participate in Patriot events they can win — in advance — you are witnessing the courage & leadership.
The second video is an interview between Pete Santilli and Brandon Curtis concerning the Idaho III% meeting with the FBI and their purpose for being in Burns, Oregon in the County of Harney.
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States…. -ARTICLE IV, SECTION 3, CLAUSE 2
The federal government owns or controls about thirty percent of the land in the United States. These holdings include national parks, national forests, recreation areas, wildlife refuges, vast tracts of range and wasteland managed by the Bureau of Land Management, reservations held in trust for Native American tribes, military bases, and ordinary federal buildings and installations. Although federal property can be found in every state, the largest concentrations are in the west, where, for example, the federal government owns over eighty percent of the land within Nevada.
The primary constitutional authority for the management and control of this vast real-estate empire is the Property Clause. The exact scope of this clause has long been a matter of debate. Broadly speaking, three different theories have been advanced.
The narrowest conception, which can be called the proprietary theory, maintains that the Property Clause simply allows Congress to act as an ordinary owner of land. It can set policy regarding whether such lands will be sold or retained and, if they are retained, who may enter these lands and for what purposes. Under this conception, the clause confers no political sovereignty over federal landholdings. Unless one of the enumerated powers of Article I applies, such as the power to raise armies or establish a post office, political sovereignty over federal lands remains with the several states in which the land is located.
The broadest conception, which can be called the police-power theory, regards the clause as conferring not only the powers of ownership but also general sovereign authority to regulate private conduct that occurs on federal land or that affects federal land. In default of any federal rule, state law applies. But if Congress determines that a federal rule “respecting” federal land is “needful,” it may adopt federal legislation that supersedes state law. Thus, the Property Clause gives Congress the authority to adopt any type of legislation for federal lands, including codes of criminal law, family law, and exemptions from state taxation for persons residing on federal lands.
Although most commentators have polarized around the proprietary and police-power theories, there is also an intermediate conception of the Property Clause, which can be labeled the protective theory. This conception would go beyond the proprietary theory in regarding the clause as a partial source of sovereign authority. But it would stop short of the police-power theory by limiting that authority to legislation designed to protect the proprietary interests of the United States. Under this intermediate conception, for example, the clause would permit Congress to pass federal legislation regulating the sale of federal land, protecting federal land from trespasses and nuisances, or exempting federal land from state taxation. On the other hand, the clause would not permit Congress to enact a general code of criminal law or family law, nor would it permit Congress to exempt persons residing on federal land from general rules of state taxation.
It is not certain which of these three theories corresponds with the original understanding of the Framers, inasmuch as the debates from the Constitutional Convention and the ratification process have little to say about the Property Clause. One clue is provided by the structure of the Constitution. Article I, which sets forth the enumerated powers of Congress, includes a specific grant of power over the governance of federal property. Article I, Section 8, Clause 17, known as the Enclave Clause, is plainly a grant of sovereign authority—indeed, exclusive sovereign authority—over the District of Columbia and other federal enclaves acquired with the consent of the state in which they are located.
Article I is the place where one would expect to find a grant of power to Congress to exercise political sovereignty over federal lands. Article IV, in contrast, which generally deals with issues of state-to-state relations (i.e., full faith and credit, privileges and immunities, extradition, repatriation of slaves, creation of new states, protection of states against invasion) would be an odd place to put such a power. Moreover, it is inconsistent with the careful drafting of the Constitution to assume that the Framers included two overlapping grants of sovereign political authority over federal lands. These structural considerations make it … READ THE REST
The whole argument over State Rights vs Federal Government police state rights can be boiled down to the fact that the state has to agree to FORMAL CESSION of sovereignty of that land designated for Federal Policing and Formal would mean that the Public was made aware that this was going to happen and that state citizenry were in agreement of such Cession , and that be with Just Compensation, so the Question would be were these things done in Oregon, or any state that has experienced Malicious actions by a Federal agency that takes land away????
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Obama Treason Cheating State Citizens out of their states wealth and resources!!!!!!!!
Thu 1/21/2016 8:33 AM
The Obama Administration is allowing Foreign Entities to come in and Use State resources and Land without going through the Formal Process of Article 4 Section 3 Clause 2, and the Citizens of the states be Compensated formally for such acts by the Obama Administration of states’ citizens be in charge and make deals themselves with these foreign entities!!!!!!!
The whole argument over State Rights vs Federal Government police state rights can be boiled down to the fact that the state has to agree to FORMAL CESSION of sovereignty of that land designated for Federal Policing and Formal would mean that the Public was made aware that this was going to happen and that state citizenry were in agreement of such Cession, and that be with Just Compensation, so the Question would be were these things done in Oregon , or any state that has experienced Malicious actions by a Federal agency that takes land away????
These SEZ [Special Economic Zone] sites should have first formally been asked for by the federal Government through the process of Article 4 Section 3 Clause 2 and the states cession of said location be made with Just Compensation to the state, and or the state agree on its own to allow a SEZ into their state with just compensation to the state and management being done by state policy and activity.
[Blog Editor: When I first tried to understand the acronym “SEZ” the first thing I ran into was the “Special Economic Zone” I linked to in Tony’s above paragraph. Then I proceeded to Tony’s next link which is about Solar Energy Zones. As you can see “Solar Energy Zones” can use the acronym SEZ.
Apparently “Special Economic Zone” is a Communist China innovation. It began in China as a joint venture between the Communist government and Foreign Investors. The paradigm proved a very successful venture industrializing China into the current economic giant it is today. Here is a brief excerpt description:
Success is driven by China’s strategic balance of protectionism and economic liberalism; China’s investment policy and the regional development policy; and export-oriented growth and foreign economic policy.
Two strong features of the Chinese rapid economic development are the investment-driven and export-oriented growth, based on the Chinese government’s ability to formulate an effective industrial development policy while maintaining a favourable climate for foreign investment.
In order to attract Foreign Director Investment (FDI) without threatening the growth of domestic industries, China adopted measures that include:
– Regional industrial policies and export promotion strategies; – Development-oriented and sustainable FDI regimes that promote capital inflow, joint ventures between local firms and foreign investment; and, – Adoption of coherent strategies for Special Economic Zones.
Since the 1980s, Special Economic Zones were introduced in China through careful experimentation, notably starting in Guangdong Province where the remarkable story of Shenzhen was turned from what was once a fishing village into an ultra-modern industrial city.
This model has since been replicated over the last 35 years in other parts of China, turning the country from a previously agro-based economy into one that now derives about 90 percent of its income from industrial and service sectors.
China is already supporting Special Economic Zones in African countries such as Egypt, Ethiopia, Mauritius, Nigeria and Zambia. There are some lessons that can be drawn and adapted from China’s development experience. (Africa: The Role of Special Economic Zones in China’s Development Prospects for Africa; By Munetsi Madakufamba; allAfrica.com; 11/23/15)
As you can read in the above excerpt the focus is to bring SEZ success experienced by Communist China into fragmented Africa. As far as I know the SEZ paradigm has not worked in Africa. My guess is because the various national governments probably have too much corruption to attract lucrative foreign investors other than the special interests of Communist China. But what I am seeing is that the SEZ is working in nations that have stable governments of note is India and I have noticed some Eastern European nations.
My concern is Communist China has been establishing SEZs in the USA in which the foreign government of Communist China is the foreign investment and a cooperating American State is the local government:
What in the world is China up to? Over the past several years, the Chinese government and large Chinese corporations (which are often at least partially owned by the government) have been systematically buying up businesses, homes, farmland, real estate, infrastructure and natural resources all over America. In some cases, China appears to be attempting to purchase entire communities in one fell swoop. So why is this happening? Is this some form of “economic colonization” that is taking place? Some have speculated that China may be intending to establish “special economic zones” inside the United States modeled after the very successful Chinese city of Shenzhen. … READ THE REST (Does China Plan To Establish “China Cities” And “Special Economic Zones” All Over America? By Michael Snyder; The Economic Collapse; 1/22/13)
Now I’m a bit suspicious of anything to do with Communism operating with government cooperation on American soil, BUT I think Tony Newbill is talking more about another SEZ – “Solar Energy Zone”. This kind of SEZ as you will read below, more about the Federal government usurping privately held land.]
View maps and information about the 17 Solar PEIS solar energy zones (SEZs). These are the priority development areas for utility-scale solar energy facilities identified in the Solar PEIS Record of Decision. Information about the Arizona Restoration Design Energy Project (RDEP) SEZ established in January 2013 is also available.
Solar PEIS SEZs
The map below shows the locations of 17 SEZs. Click the sun icons or labels in the map or follow the links below the map to learn more about each SEZ.
An SEZ is defined by the BLM as an area well-suited for utility-scale production of solar energy where BLM will prioritize solar energy and associated transmission infrastructure development. A discussion of the criteria used to identify SEZs is provided in Chapter 2 (Volume 1 of the Final Solar PEIS). Modifications to the originally proposed SEZs and SEZs dropped from further consideration are described in Chapters 8 through 13 of the Final Solar PEIS (Volumes 2 through 5).
This guy talks about having More Proof of the CIA, and a Canadian Co. facilitating the Uranium sale off the Hammond’s Ranch working with Hillary Clinton, and will reveal it in his next article:
The Ammon Bundy group, currently operating 30 miles outside of the Burns, Oregon, has been the victim of the most heinous and effective takeovers in the history of the media.
The Ammon Bundy group along with their presence in Oregon, threatens to expose a terrible agenda of oppression and governmental abuse being perpetrated against the American people and in particular the ranchers and the farmers in the West.
In an attempt to control the narrative, CNN and Fox News have been the only media organizations that have not either been physically taken down or neutralized through the infiltration by covert government operatives, many of them from the CIA.
To date, The Common Sense Show has been the only organization outside of Fox and CNN that has effectively covered the Ammon Bundy-Hammond Ranch controversy in a first-hand manner. And this coverage of the Hammond Ranch Affair did not occur without a severe price being paid by The Common Sense Show (CSS) and its related partners.
On Sunday, January 10, 2016, Katy Whelan, the health reporter for the CSS, made contact with a relative of Ammon Bundy. As many of you already know that both satellites that carry my show, the phone lines, the listen by phone option and all supportive operations of my satellite provider were taken down one minute before the scheduled interview was to begin. Adding legitimacy to this conspiracy to hide the truth behind the real events in Burns, Oregon, Ammon Bundy and his colleagues simultaneously had every form of their communications taken down at the same time. One would have to be one “helluva” coincidence theorist to not make this connection.
On the following day (January 11), the CSS and Ammon Bundy used alternative communication methods and we were able to get beyond censors of the federal government and produce the Dave Hodges/Sheila Zilinsky interview with Ammon Bundy. Below, is a link to this interview. It begins after 20 minutes into the show and lasts for almost 40 minutes. In this 40 minutes lies the only honest account, to date of what is really going on Burns and what Ammon Bundy and colleagues are really trying to accomplish.
The events are threatening to every American, not just ranchers and farmers in the West. The BLM and the EPA are starting with the ranchers and farmers but they are working their way towards all of us, even those of us who live in densely populated urban areas. All of us will soon become victims of this tyranny. The CSS will be exposing the full extent of this plot in a future article.
As an aside, when I became involved with the events in Burns, Oregon, Zuckerberg and his minions have banned me from Facebook.
Some involved Americans are keenly aware of how our churches have been compromised by the DHS’ plot to control pastors through the formation of the Clergy Response Team. Today, societal events that would have sent Christians into a tizzy a dozen years ago, go unprotested and largely unnoticed by Christian followers because many of the pastors are controlled by the DHS and are leveraged through tax exempt programs offered by the IRS which are designed to compromise the message of Christ. Well, the same thing is going on inside of the Independent Media.
The Independent Media Is Under Extreme Attack
There is a plot so massive, so corrupt and so well-orchestrated that nearly every member and organization connected to the Independent Media is … READ THE REST
There were no Formal requests made by the Obama administration in the Public forum process under the Article 4 Section 3 Clause 2 rights of the state. This can be said across the board on a variety of states’ resources according to this link:
I returned from Burns, Oregon last night discouraged and disappointed. Never let it be said that there was any premeditation or strategic planning for the events at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Watching the events unfold as they have, the only conclusion that can be reached is that the occupation of Malheur Headquarters – or the Harney County Resource Center may well be known in history as The Cowboy’s Last Stand. They have the media event down pat but the back half… the planning for the “now what do we do” is demonstrably lacking as the events are rolling along ad hoc. At yesterday’s press conference – which I found out about literally two seconds before I was ready to leave town, we hear that Stephen E. Grasty is preventing the occupiers from using any county facilities for holding a town hall meeting. Now that’s a surprise.
Grasty McNasty is Boss Hawg of Harney County. He is both a County Commissioner and the County Judge at the same time. He has been doing everything in his power to assist the FBI in creating a climate of fear in the town of Burns. He had the chutzpah to tell the now former Harney County Fire Chief, Chris Briels that Briels was an old man who didn’t understand what was going on and that he was the one who was creating fear when he reported that it was FBI Agents in plain clothes who were skulking around the town armory and that they lied to him when he confronted them about it. It’s well known in urban areas that the FBI brings in agent provocateurs to cause trouble giving the killers with badges the justification for their actions when Americans have had enough and protest. Now the local police and the people of Harney County know it too.
It’s not hard to figure out why Grasty McNasty would have his olfactory appendage so far up the federal rectum. Federal money flows to the counties and there is no doubt that McNasty will be rewarded for being a quisling. The only question is how much will he get for himself. The pattern globally seems to be that public officials are paid $100,000 in cash for selling out their constituents. That’s an embarrassingly cheap price for what they are selling. Why would I mention the global pattern for public officials that sell out? Because the structure of the global economy – using the United States as the example, is that our corporations invest in foreign countries and the corporations of foreign countries invest in this country. It’s a system of Creative Treason – building a deadly embrace of … READ THE REST
MAKE THE FBI STAND DOWN in BURNS OREGON while this Constitutional Crisis is being worked out by Demanding protection under the CONSTITUTION RESTORATION ACT!!!!!!!!!!!
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The FBI is being ordered to secure the area and all areas, YOU CAN, under this Constitutional Restoration Act DEMAND the Federal Government WHO HAS MADE DEALS with Foreign Nationalists for the State Lands’ resources TO STAND DOWN! While you are working out this constitutional crisis and you can use the Courts to STOP THEM from using FORCE to take back control with this Constitution Restoration ACT ordering the Courts to tell the Federal Government to STAND DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
The central statement of the bill is that, after passing, “the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an entity of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer or agent of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official or personal capacity), concerning that entity’s, officer’s, or agent’s acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.” In other words, the bill would limit the power of the federal judiciary specifically in religious liberty cases. The bill also states that judges or other court officials that listen to cases that meet said criteria are to be impeached and convicted.
Supporters of the bills, largely conservativeRepublicans, claim that the legislation re-asserts the original meaning of the First Amendment and the principle of limited government power over rights of conscience and religion.[2][3][4] Opponents of the bill have expressed concern that the bill would repeal the applicability of the First Amendment to state and local governments by rendering it impossible to appeal constitutionally questionable state decisions beyond the state level. The act has been viewed by critics as an attempt to advance the cause of Dominionism by conservative evangelical Christian Republicans.[5][6][7] Roy Moore, one of the original drafters of the bill, describes its purpose as:
“The purpose of the CRA is to restrict the appellate jurisdiction of the United States Supreme Court and all lower federal courts to that jurisdiction permitted them by the Constitution of the United States. The acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, and government is contained within the Declaration of Independence which is cited as the ‘organic law’ of our Country by United States Code Annotated. The constitution of every state of the Union acknowledges God and His sovereignty, as do three branches of the federal government. The acknowledgment of God is not a legitimate subject of review by federal courts. The CRA also protects and preserves the Constitution of the United States by restricting federal courts from recognizing the laws of foreign jurisdictions and international law as the supreme law of our land.[1]
The bills were originally introduced in 2004 in both the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate, but languished in committee. Reintroduced at the beginning of the 2005 congressional session, they were read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, where they again languished. The Republican Study Committee, a caucus of conservative House members of the Republican Party, allegedly promoted the passage of “protections for religious freedom” as item #10 on their list of top ten legislative priorities of 2006. In early 2006 the proposal was endorsed by panels of both houses of the Idaho Legislature.[8] (Wikipedia; This page was last modified on 10 January 2016, at 19:06.)
It’s time to Bring a Constitution Restoration Act action against the Obama Administration Claiming Article 4 Section 3 Clause 2 process was Not followed to allow Obama to sell and make agreements with Foreign Countries to own and use US State Lands!!!!!!!!!!!
This Gold Butte actually has quite a wild history of government trying to take the land, including closing the only post office in the area so that packages could not be delivered which put a real damper on things for those trying to live in the area. Another interesting bit of information is that the wiki page for Gold Butte Ghost Town was recently updated to reflect “new” changes to a page for a “ghost town”. Why would it need to be updated? Check out this video from Dutchsinse from last April (2015).
We all remember the BLM / Bundy Ranch standoff which occurred in 2014.
Most people don’t know, the Nevada land grab was NOT about “cattle”. It was about Gold Butte, Nevada. Gold Butte is an old dormant butte volcano, and an old GOLD MINING TOWN which was shut down by the government between 1905 -1908. During World War 1 a large majority of the copper and silver used in the war came from around this location in Clark County Nevada.
Ironically, 100 years ago is the time where Bundy claims his family began ranching the area. It is odd that the families that stayed behind AFTER the government shut down the post office (on purpose shut down to cut off supply to the town…. turned out to be ranchers — and that was 100 years ago.
Bundy, an old man now in 2015 must have been passed down a “family secret” about the Gold deposits, silver deposits, and other precious metals in the ground at Gold Butte, NV.
The whole BLM land grab in 2014 was about Gold. Which is why Harry Reid wanted to strip mine the area and build a “solar farm” on Gold Butte after they level the mountainside and get the contents of the stripped surface and subsurface.
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Gold Butte is located about 33 miles southeast of Glendale.
Mica was first discovered here in 1873, and then gold in 1905. By the next year, a post office was built. A gold rush in 1908 brought in more people, and the townsite now had a hotel, livery stable, post office, mercantile, and several residences. Another camp named Copper City was started two miles west at the site of the short-lived Lincoln copper mine.
By 1910 the gold rush was over and most mining operations ceased. No buildings remain, only a couple concrete slabs / foundations, two graves, and several old mine shafts.
Mining is thought to have begun in the 1700’s when the Spanish left remnants of their efforts in the form of arrastras. An arrastra is a large flat rock hollowed out over which a donkey would drag another rock to crush the ore. There are four known arrastras in the Gold Butte townsite area.
In the 1800’s mica was being mined and shipped from the area. Gold was discovered in 1906 and by 1907 Gold Butte was booming with a speculated population of 2,000. By 1909 the boom went bust and the post office was removed from the townsite of Gold Butte. Mining continued in the area as the Grand Gulch copper mine produced much of the needed copper for World War 1. The wagon trails that carried the copper to the St. Thomas railroad spur can still be followed to this day. The wagon masters’ signatures in wagon wheel axel grease tell the story on the sandstone walls of Mud Wash.
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Now move forward to 2015, and we have Galice Oregon, and a repeat situation of the BLM coming in to a Gold mining town to seize land for their own use.
Again we have locals who mine the land, who have a miners claim (by law) on land that is public use.
Just like Nevada, Bundy, and Gold Butte, in Oregon we have Gold HILL nearby.
A butte and a hill could be considered very much similar. Nearby volcanoes at each location tell the tale of the rich mineral deposits which must exist at both locations in NV, and OR.
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Alaska residents to get $1,884 payout from oil royalty fund
By Steve Quinn
September 17, 2014 5:16 PM
Yahoo News
JUNEAU Alaska (Reuters) – Nearly every Alaska resident will soon be $1,884 richer, thanks to an annual payout from an oil wealth trust fund that has been credited with keeping many low-income families out of poverty, state officials said on Wednesday.
More than 640,000 Alaska residents will receive the payment from The Alaska Permanent Fund next month, which Department of Revenue Commissioner Angela Rodell says is the third largest since the state began paying such sums in 1982 with a $1,000 check.
The sum is more than twice the $900 paid to each Alaska resident last year and more than the collective payments from each of the last two years. But it is still off from a high of $2,069 paid in 2008.
Alaska’s Permanent Fund was established by a constitutional amendment passed by voters in 1976 requiring a portion of state oil revenues be put into a savings account to be available for the distant future, when North Slope oil fields are tapped out.
The annual direct payout to citizens, derived from a formula averaging … READ THE REST
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Edited by John R. Houk
Some links are by the Editor. Text enclosed by brackets are by the Editor.
Chris Harper-Mercer is the latest mass murderer giving fuel to the leftist dream of disarming all Americans. Which we all should know would mean Americans would be an even easier target for lunatics like Harper-Mercer who wouldn’t have to worry about buying a gun a legally if he so chose to kill unarmed unprotected Americans such as those shot and killed at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon.
When I first heard on the news that a spree-killer was targeting Christians for death by shooting them in the head who so identified themselves, my first thought was that another psycho-Muslim was on the loose in America. As more information has flowed in it has become apparent that Harper-Mercer was a lunatic most likely of the fringe Right. Just to be clear Harper-Mercer was not affiliated with Conservatives that the SPLC often mislabels as the fringe Right (Gun Rights groups, Family Values Christians, Counterjihad writers and so on). Rather Harper-Mercer was attracted to the actual fringe Right such as Nazis, Christian-haters, Jew-Haters and so forth.
I place Harper-Mercer among the fringe Right based on some logical guesses from media investigations looking at the killer’s web history leading to some fairly intelligent guesses. I suspect as the authorities investigate further some more relevant details will emerge. Until then below are some excerpts and articles into the mind of a young man who loathed Christians and had a disregard for human life.
The bodies aren’t even cold and liberal gun-grabbers, starting with the Commander-in-Chief himself are going to trample all over the victims of the Oregon College tragedy to call for more gun control.
The gunman who killed at least nine people and wounded seven at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., has been identified as 26-year-old Chris Harper Mercer, law enforcement sources confirmed to Fox News.
Police have said little about Harper Mercer’s background or his motive for the attack.
There is a heavy law enforcement presence outside Harper Mercer’s home, and authorities are running his name against terror watch lists, in addition to combing through his email history, phone logs and social media footprint.
According to witnesses, he lined up students in a classroom and asked their religion. Those who answered Christian were shot in the head, while those who answered another religion or did not answer were shot in the legs.
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A MySpace page in his name contains photos of IRA gunmen and points to support for the organization.
In an online dating profile, the shooter purportedly identified himself as a “conservative Republican” and expressed a disdain for organized religion, Daily Beast reported. He also specified that he was in college, lived with his parents and did not drink, smoke or do drugs.
According to CBS News, the shooter wrote a blog post about Vester Flanagan, who fatally shot a Virginia news reporter and a cameraman in August.
“I have noticed that so many people like [Flanagan] are alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed … READ ENTIRETY
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The anti-Christ shooter is a mixed-race, teetotaling Nazi
A profile on an online dating site, Spiritual Passions, shows the 26-year-old Harper-Mercer “doesn’t like organized religion” and identified as a “conservative Republican.”
It is unknown why Christians were targeted specifically. Harper was a frequent poster on an image-based bulletin board called “4Chan.” A quick review shows many of the users are obsessed with death and suicide, see themselves as outsiders and resent “normies” – anyone conventional or mainstream.
This was clearly a terribly sick individual. It is a … READ ENTIRETY
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Chris Harper-Mercer: Everything we know about the Oregon school gunman on Friday afternoon
Shooter encouraged followers to watch grisly images online and posted that the “more people you kill, the more you’re in the limelight”
Police in Oregon have identified the gunman who opened fire at a college on Thursday, killing 10 people, as Chris Harper-Mercer.
The 26-year-old, whose social media profiles featured content supporting the IRA, apparently demanded to know his victims’ religious beliefs before opening fire at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon.
He left behind a complex web of online identities which offer a possible insight into his personality – or at least a glimpse of the way he wanted to present himself to the world.
He maintained a myspace page, on which he posted a photograph of himself holding what appears to be a rifle, alongside images of masked IRA gunmen.
Obsession with Nazis
He offered the fullest description of himself on an online dating profile, saying he was “shy at first, but warm up quickly, better in small groups”. He also said he was not religious but was “spiritual” and described his political views as conservative.
His username on the dating site Spiritual Passions was ironcross45 – a handle often used by far-Right sympathisers in reference to the German military symbol reintroduced by the Nazis.
He was also linked, via the username Lithium_Love, to a video upload site, where he also posted about Vester Flanagan, the former TV reporter who shot dead two former colleagues live on air.
According to Kortney Moore, 18, the shooter told people to reveal their religion during the rampage. She had been in her writing class when her teacher was shot in the head.
A woman who said her grandmother was inside Snyder Hall, where part of the attack took place, described what happened in a tweet.
The gunman has a British father, Ian Mercer, who is aged in his mid-50s and from the north-west of England.
The father, from Lancashire, is believed to have moved to America to live with the killer’s mother, Laurel Harper, who is the second-oldest of four sisters.
Late Thursday evening, police named 26-year-old Chris Harper Mercer as the man who shot and killed at least nine students, many of them women, at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon.
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On another profile likely created by Mercer residing on the siteSpiritual Passions, Mercer identified his ethnicity as “mixed race,” his interests as “internet, killing zombies, movies, music, reading,” and his political affiliation as “conservative Republican.” He also noted that he lived with his parents and never wanted children. His music interests were listed as “Industrial, Punk, Rock.”
One family member told the Daily Beastthat Mercer’s father is white and his mother is black, but when he “came into the world, his birth father was not in the picture.”
On his apparent Spiritual Passions account, he also apparently reveals his distaste for religion. Not only does this page say he is “not religious” — but is “spiritual”– it also lays claim to the “Left-Hand Path” as a group that interested him.
The Left-Hand Path is an idea often equated with the occult and is said to manifest itself in “malicious Black magic.”
Local news quotes eyewitnesses as saying that Mercer ordered victims to identify their religion before firing; one Twitter user claiming to be a witness said that if students identified themselves as Christians, he shot them in the head.
Roseburg, Oregon (CNN) The gunman who opened fire at Oregon’s Umpqua Community College singled out Christians, according to the father of a wounded student.
Before going into spinal surgery, Anastasia Boylan told her father the gunman entered her classroom firing.
“I’ve been waiting to do this for years,” the gunman told the professor teaching the class. He shot him point blank, Boylan recounted.
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“He was a little odd, like sensitive to things,” said Rebecca Miles, who took a theater class with Mercer.
Throughout Thursday night, investigators talked to the gunman’s family and neighbors to try to piece together the puzzle.
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Another neighbor, Steven Fisher, described him as “skittish.”
“His demeanor, the way he moved, always looking around,” Fisher said. “I got a bad vibe from him.”
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Roseburg has about 22,000 residents, and Umpqua isn’t a traditional college. The average age of its 13,600 students was 38 during the 2013-2014 school year.
… READ ENTIRETY [The article is written to lead to support gun control. I included because I read some personal accounts that I didn’t see at other places. On a personal level I have jokingly referred to CNN as the Communist News Network]
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Edited by John R. Houk
Anything enclosed by brackets are likely by the Editor.
FBI Joseph-Astarita murdered LaVoy Finicum
CASEY CODDING another Finicum shooter
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